Still dodging the question, eh? How do you know anybody in the photo of Reagan
meeting Afghan Mujaheddin were Taliban or belonged to any other group? <Taliban
never driven out of Afghanistan? Tell that to Mullah Omar and his government,
tens of thousands of Afghani refugees living in Pakistan's tribal regions and
Obama Bin Laden. <"They are radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a
faction of that group." Sorry, but it sounds like you are equating all
Mujaheddin as radical Muslims on a level with the Taliban. Don't they call
that *painting with a broad brush*, xenaphobic?
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From: do.rflex <do.rf...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 7:33:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@ ...> wrote:
>
> If FairfieldLife' s very own expatriot postal worker was trying to answer
> for Robert, you failed. The Question was, How dou you know the Afganis in
> that photo were Taliban? Mujaheddin had several factions, one of which were
> Taliban. The Northern Alliance helped our special forces drive the Taliban
> out of Afghanistan.
>
News Flash for Southern Man: The Taliban were never driven out of Afghanistan
by the Northern Alliance or anybody else.
>
Equating anybody that opposed the Soviet Union as *Taliban* sounds ...xenophbic.
>
Making a distorted, false suggestion like that confirms that don't have a clue
what you're talking about.
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: do.rflex <do.rf...@.. .>
> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:16:50 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban?
> >
>
>
> They are the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that
> group.
>
>
> >
> I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take
> control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the
> Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban
> out of the country.
>
>
>
> The Southern redneck needs a good history review:
>
>
> Fisking the "War on Terror"
>
> by Juan Cole - August 02, 2005
>
> Once upon a time, a dangerous radical gained control of the US Republican
> Party.
>
>
>
> Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin
> conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion
> dollars a year.
>
>
>
> One fifth of the money, which the CIA mostly turned over to Pakistani
> military intelligence to distribute, went to Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, a violent
> extremist who as a youth used to throw acid on the faces of unveiled girls in
> Afghanistan.
>
> Not content with creating a vast terrorist network to harass the Soviets,
> Reagan then pressured the late King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to match US
> contributions. He had earlier imposed on Fahd to give money to the Contras in
> Nicaragua, some of which was used to create rightwing death squads. (Reagan
> liked to sidestep Congress in creating private terrorist organizations for
> his foreign policy purposes, which he branded "freedom fighters," giving
> terrorists the idea that it was all right to inflict vast damage on civilians
> in order to achieve their goals).
>
>
>
>
>
> Fahd was a timid man and resisted Reagan's instructions briefly, but finally
> gave in to enormous US pressure.
>
>
>
> Fahd not only put Saudi government money into the Afghan Mujahideen networks,
> which trained them in bomb making and guerrilla tactics, but he also
> instructed the Minister of Intelligence, Turki al-Faisal, to try to raise
> money from private sources.
>
>
>
> Turki al-Faisal checked around and discovered that a young member of the
> fabulously wealthy Bin Laden construction dynasty, Usama, was committed to
> Islamic causes. Turki thus gave Usama the task of raising money from Gulf
> millionaires for the Afghan struggle. This whole effort was undertaken,
> remember, on Reagan Administration instructions.
>
> Bin Laden not only raised millions for the effort, but helped encourage Arab
> volunteers to go fight for Reagan against the Soviets and the Afghan
> communists. The Arab volunteers included people like Ayman al-Zawahiri, a
> young physician who had been jailed for having been involved in the
> assassination of Egyptian president Anwar El-Sadat. Bin Laden kept a database
> of these volunteers. In Arabic the word for base is al-Qaeda.
>
>
>
>
> In the US, the Christian Right adopted the Mujahideen as their favorite
> project. They even sent around a "biblical checklist" for grading US
> congressman as to how close they were to the "Christian" political line. If a
> congressman didn't support the radical Muslim Muj, he or she was downgraded
> by the evangelicals and fundamentalists.
>
> Reagan wanted to give more and more sophisticated weapons to the Mujahideen
> ("freedom fighters"). The Pakistani generals were forming an alliance with
> the fundamentalist Jamaat-i Islam and begining to support madrasahs or
> hardline seminaries that would teach Islamic extremism. But even they balked
> at giving the ragtag Muj really advanced weaponry. Pakistan had a close
> alliance with China, and took advice from Beijing.
>
>
>
> In 1985 Reagan sent Senator Orrin Hatch, Undersecretary of Defense Fred Iklé
> and others to Beijing to ask China to put pressure on Pakistan to allow the
> US to give the Muslim radicals, such as Hikmatyar, more sophisticated
> weapons. Hatch succeeded in this mission.
>
> By giving the Muj weaponry like the stinger shoulderheld missile, which could
> destroy advanced Soviet arms like their helicopter gunships, Reagan
> demonstrated to the radical Muslims that they could defeat a super power.
>
>
>
> Reagan also decided to build up Saddam Hussein in Iraq as a counterweight to
> Khomeinist Iran, authorizing US and Western companies to send him precursors
> for chemical and biological weaponry. At one point Donald Rumsfeld was sent
> to Iraq to assure Saddam that it was all right if he used chemical weapons
> against the Iranians. Reagan had no taste in friends.
>
>
>
> On becoming president, George H. W. Bush made a deal with the Soviets that he
> would cut the Mujahideen off if the Soviets would leave Afghanistan. The last
> Soviet troops departed in early 1989. The US then turned its back on
> Afghanistan and allowed it to fall into civil war, as the radical Muslim
> factions fostered by Washington and Riyadh turned against one another and
> used their extensive weaponry on each other and on civilians.
>
> In the meantime, Saddam, whom the US had built up as a major military power,
> invaded Kuwait. The Bush senior administration now had to take on its former
> protege, and put hundreds of thousands of US troops into the Gulf and Saudi
> Arabia. The radical Muslim extremists with whom Reagan and Bush had allied in
> Afghanistan now turned on the US, objecting strenuously to a permanent US
> military presence in the Muslim holy land.
>
>
>
> From 1994 Afghanistan was increasingly dominated by a faction of Mujahideen
> known as Taliban or seminary students (who were backed by Pakistani military
> intelligence, which learned the trick from Reagan and which were flush from
> all those billions the Reagan administration had funneled into the region).
> In 1996 Bin Laden came back and reestablished himself there, becoming the
> leader of 5,000 radical Arab volunteers that Reagan had urged Fahd to help
> come to Afghanistan back in the 1980s.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, the US had steadfastly supported Israeli encroachments on
> the Palestinian Occupied Territories and the gradual complete annexation of
> Jerusalem, the third holiest city to Muslims.
>
>
>
> Since the outbreak of the first intifada, Israeli troops had riposted with
> brutality. Even after the Oslo accords were signed, the size of Israeli
> colonies in the Palestinian West Bank and around Jerusalem doubled.
>
>
>
> A steady drumbeat of violence against Palestinians by Israelis, who were
> stealing their land and clearly intended to monopolize their sacred space,
> enraged the Muslim radicals that had been built up and coddled by Reagan.
>
> In 1998, al-Qaeda and al-Jihad al-Islami, two small terrorist groups
> established in Afghanistan as a result of the Reagan jihad, declared war on
> the United States and Israel (the "Zionists and Crusaders"). After attacks by
> al-Qaeda cells on US embassies in East Africa and on the USS Cole, nineteen
> of them ultimately used jet planes to attack the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
>
>
>
> The Bush administration responded to these attacks by the former proteges of
> Ronald Reagan by putting the old Mujahideen warlords back in charge of
> Afghanistan' s provinces, allowing Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri to escape,
> declaring that Americans no longer needed a Bill of Rights, and suddenly
> invading another old Reagan protege, Saddam's Iraq, which had had nothing to
> do with 9/11 and posed no threat to the US. The name given this bizarre set
> of actions by Bush was "the War on Terror."
>
> In Iraq, the US committed many atrocities, including bombing campaigns on
> civilian quarters of cities it had already occupied, and a ferocious assault
> on Fallujah, and tortured Iraqi prisoners.
>
> In the meantime, the Bush administration put virtually no money or effort
> into actually combatting terrorist cells in places like Morocco, as opposed
> to putting $200 billion into the Iraq war and aftermath. As a result, a
> string of terrorist attacks were allowed to strike at Madrid, London and
> elsewhere.
>
> Fred Ikle, who had been part of the Reaganist/Chinese Communist effort to
> convince Muslim fundamentalist generals in Pakistan--against their better
> judgment-- to allow the US to give the radical Muslim extremists even more
> sophisticated weapons, wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal urging the
> nuking of Mecca.
>
> Then in July, 2005, General Richard Myers, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
> of Staff, announced that there was not actually any "War on Terror:" '
> General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the
> National Press Club on Monday that he had "objected to the use of the term
> 'war on terrorism' before, because if you call it a war, then you think of
> people in uniform as being the solution." ' (Question: Does this mean we can
> have the Bill of Rights back, now?)
>
> The American Right, having created the Mujahideen and having mightily
> contributed to the creation of al-Qaeda, abruptly announced that there was
> something deeply wrong with Islam, that it kept producing terrorists.
>
> = =
> John "Juan" Ricardo I. Cole is an American scholar,
> public intellectual, and historian of the modern
> Middle East and South Asia.
>
> He is Richard P. Mitchell Collegiate Professor of
> History at the University of Michigan. As a commentator
> on Middle Eastern affairs, he has appeared in print and
> on television, and testified before the United States
> Senate.
>
> He has published several peer-reviewed books on the
> modern Middle East and is a translator of both Arabic
> and Persian. Since 2002, he has written a weblog,
> Informed Comment.
> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Juan_Cole
> = =
>
> http://www.juancole .com/2005/ 08/fisking- war-on-terror- once-upon- time.html
>
>
>
> So Robert, do you go to Reverend Wrights church? I mean if the CIA is in
> control of Afghan Opium it must be to keep our *uppidy* negros down, doncha
> think?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Robert babajii_99@ ..
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:10:39 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, those Afghanis were soooo much better off under Mullah Omar and
> > > the Taliban and so were we...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ronald Reagan seemed to think so. Here Saint Ronny hosts the Taliban at
> > > the White House.
> > >
> > > Reagan chats with the Taliban in the White House in 1983
> > >(snip)
> > Reagan and his boys, used the Taliban, when it was in their interest, to
> > fight the 'Soviets'...
> > When the Taliban, did away with the Opium Crops, that was not in their
> > interests, as the CIA, needs to drug money...
> > So, that is the real reason, for this whole thing..
> > Drug money...
> > It's only too obvious...
> > Why else would they be so interested in Afghanistan?
> > To free the people?
> > No it's all about money....and they will do anything to get their cut...
> > They are MAFIA!
> > R.G.
> >
>
