--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote:
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> > > All Swans Start As Ugly Ducklings:  Healthcare Reform In Perspectiveby
> > > Norbrook <http://norbrook.dailykos.com/>  - Dec 26, 2009
> > <snip>
> > > 54 years ago, a weak, flawed piece of legislation was passed.
> > > It didn't do anything to control air pollution.  It didn't
> > > set any standards.  It didn't have enforcement built into it.
> > > It didn't even have a lot of funding.  8 years later, another
> > > piece of legislation was passed.  It wasn't much better.  But
> > > they were the beginning.  As weak and toothless as these laws
> > > were, they set into law the principles that enabled the
> > > 1970 law.
> > 
> > So we should expect to wait another 15 years before we
> > get a decent health reform bill?
> >
> 
> Pigs fly every 15 years if you smoke enough hopium, doncha know. Obama's HCR 
> apologists ignore the facts at their peril. This bill is such a sink hole no 
> one will ever dig out of it. By the time the hopey dopey folks come down from 
> their high, their employers will have dropped their group plans, they will 
> have been forced to pay for high deductible junk insurance on top of ever 
> increasing premiums and they will have no leverage as individuals to find a 
> competitive plan, since competitive plans don't exist without a public 
> option. To top it off, if they can't afford to pay the mandated premiums they 
> will pay tax penalties and they still won't have health insurance.
> 
> Guess what? In the Senate bill, which will probably prevail over the House 
> bill in conference, many of the rotten provisions won't go into effect until 
> 2013, right after the start of Obama's lame duck second term. Sweet.
>


I don't think anyone is going to "kill the bill." I believe that most rational 
Dems recognize that considering the realities of the current political make up 
of Congress what has been accomplished is a major, significent step forward in 
a decades long history of failed attempts to get anywhere on such a scale with 
health care legislation.








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