--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> wrote: <snip> > It is his rejection of that cruel ideology that makes his > thinking so attractive to me. He is saying something that > is the opposite view of the karmic belief system, "it's > not fair!"
Well, let's say it's the opposite of the view of some who believe in karma. > They didn't earn this suffering by their bad deeds in a > past life, they just drew the short straw in life by chance. > And we can act to change this unfairness. Some believe *both* to be true--that they "earned" it, and that we can--are obligated to--do whatever we're able to relieve suffering. Some even think the "earned" part is so complicated and inscrutable that it's unfair to assume anything about what a person did in their past life based on their situation in this life. Since we can't know, as far as we're concerned it might just as well be by chance, so that's how we should respond. > I think it is fascinating that you are promoting a guy > who explicitly states that he does not belief in God > and whose views are so much more inline with Gandhi > than Guru Dev. You think Guru Dev didn't believe in helping people who were suffering? Sometimes it seems to me that those who argue against certain religious beliefs base their arguments on the most simplistic understanding of those beliefs, and once they've demolished the case for the simplistic versions, think they've eliminated any reason for holding any version of the beliefs.
