--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: <snip> > > > > Empathizing doesn't mean accepting; it *does* > > > > mean being able to acknowledge, and to tread > > > > carefully. > > > > > > I *do* acknowledge your assessment of your condition, and that > > > for you your assessment of you is realer than mine is of you > > > (as of course it must and should be, if we are separate); but > > > what is it I am to tread carefully around? > > > > *Feelings*. > > Yes; feelings are most important. What feelings are arising that > you would like me to tread carefully around?
(I don't mean just you and just me specifically, although I include us.) Basically, for someone who is realized to say something to someone in ignorance that suggests it's somehow their *fault* that they're still in ignorance, that they could turn it around in an instant if they would only pull up their socks, is hurtful. To tell them they're not really overshadowed, they just *imagine* they are, is hurtful. To treat their reality as any less real to them than what the realized person experiences as his or her reality is hurtful. MMY, for one, doesn't do that, but at the same time he doesn't thereby dilute the reality of realization in the slightest. (At least he doesn't do that in any of the tapes or written mterial that's available to rank-and-filers that I've seen.) He consistently respects the "Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness" dictum. I haven't ever found anything he's said to be hurtful. But I've heard realized TMers say things that were hurtful in this respect and then blame those who found them hurtful for not wanting to know the truth, insisting that they themselves were only being compassionate. It really feels like someone with great big muddy hobnailed boots trampling on one's very tenderest, most vulnerable feelings. I don't see how this can possibly be a good thing, both because it's so discouraging and because it tends to make one wonder whether realization itself is such a hot idea if it renders those who achieve it so insensitive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
