--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Yes, after participating on FFL for the past few years I 
have 
> > > > reluctantly come to believe that no really meaningful 
discussion
> > > > can be held on that particular subject -- hence the wise not 
> > > > speaking and so on. *Except* with those who are *on the 
brink* 
> as 
> > > > it were :-)
> > > 
> > > Thought experiment: An electronic forum like this
> > > dealing with realization in which MMY participated.
> > > Would it be possible for him to discuss realization
> > > meaningfully with those who haven't yet achieved it?
> > 
> > Meaningfully from whose point of view?
> 
> Whose point of view were you talking about above?

The point of view of those considering themselves to be in 
ignorance. If that is what you mean, I would say offhand (again, 
judging only from my own experience) that *no* concept of 
realization could come close to being meaningful, in the sense of 
being particularly accurate or useful from the vantage point of 
ignorance. Which is not to say that Wholeness doesn't love our 
trying to discuss IT :-)





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