--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > authfriend wrote: > >> > > > > So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about > > > > the nature of realization is accurate or useful > > > > from the vantage point of ignorance? > > > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > > > No, I don't, particularly. Rather, at a certain point it appears to > > > allow one to more or less happily remain in ignorance, locked into a > > > conceptual framework of other-than-now and a belief in fully > > > automatic, painless, effortless, mythical enlightenment "by-and-by," > > > measuring oneself by our ideas of criteria set by others, not by > > > those actual criteria honestly set by oneself. In other words, seen > > > from one vantage point it appears to be truly magnificent at keeping > > > many people asleep. While the description of the states of > > > consciousness is stunningly beautiful, even this at best is a > > > conceptual fairy-tale :-) > > > > Barry wrote: > > > > Never been said better. Thank you. > > Rory describes the dysfunctional way I absorbed the teaching for > many years, but in fairness to Maharishi, I recall many times when > he talked about "the pathless path," implying we're already there. > I also recall a period in the 1990s when he seemed to be > trying to dislodge whatever conceptual attachments were preventing > our awakening to what is already there, talking about the "mistake > of the intellect" and what have you. > > In short, for me, it might be fairer to fault my understanding than > MMY's attempts to straighten it out.
While I remember such teachings, too (very rarely), I think it should be remembered that Maharishi in these later teachings was attempting to "straighten out" or "dislodge" conceptual attachments that he, himself, had created in his students. It was as if he was belatedly using the thorn of truth to remove the thorns of untruth that he'd stuck into us all for so many years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
