--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > authfriend wrote: > > >> > > > > > So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about > > > > > the nature of realization is accurate or useful > > > > > from the vantage point of ignorance? > > > > > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > > > > > No, I don't, particularly. Rather, at a certain point it appears to > > > > allow one to more or less happily remain in ignorance, locked into a > > > > conceptual framework of other-than-now and a belief in fully > > > > automatic, painless, effortless, mythical enlightenment "by- and-by," > > > > measuring oneself by our ideas of criteria set by others, not by > > > > those actual criteria honestly set by oneself. In other words, seen > > > > from one vantage point it appears to be truly magnificent at keeping > > > > many people asleep. While the description of the states of > > > > consciousness is stunningly beautiful, even this at best is a > > > > conceptual fairy-tale :-) > > > > > > Barry wrote: > > > > > > Never been said better. Thank you. > > > > Rory describes the dysfunctional way I absorbed the teaching for > > many years, but in fairness to Maharishi, I recall many times when > > he talked about "the pathless path," implying we're already there. > > I also recall a period in the 1990s when he seemed to be > > trying to dislodge whatever conceptual attachments were preventing > > our awakening to what is already there, talking about the "mistake > > of the intellect" and what have you. > > > > In short, for me, it might be fairer to fault my understanding than > > MMY's attempts to straighten it out. > > While I remember such teachings, too (very rarely),
Just how many such lectures should MMY conduct? They're all videotaped, are they not? I think > it should be remembered that Maharishi in these later > teachings was attempting to "straighten out" or "dislodge" > conceptual attachments that he, himself, had created in > his students. > > It was as if he was belatedly using the thorn of truth to > remove the thorns of untruth that he'd stuck into us all > for so many years. Words have a way of being misinterpreted, now don't they? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
