--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> In the Buddhist paradigm, the only way to break the
> cycle is to get beyond expectation.  Some have inter-
> preted this teaching as needing to get beyond desire,
> but I don't agree with that interpretation.  Desire is 
> always going to be present.  What does not need to
> be present is attachment to the fruits of desire or 
> aversion to the desire not being fulfilled.

Gee, just like MMY says, huh?

<snip>
> The only way out of the cycle is to get off the wheel.
> For a rare few, this seems to happen naturally. The
> rest actually have to work at it. In your case, I can
> only hope it happens naturally, because it seems
> clear that you don't believe you have to work at it.

Sez Barry, demonstrating how successful his
efforts have been to get beyond expectation.

Barry, you just do not have a *clue*, not about
me, and perhaps least of all about yourself.





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