--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So is this real? > > > > Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? > > > > http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ > > > > http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ListofMVM.htm > > MVM Schools > > It would be neat if it were true. But it's just a web page, > Lawson. Two web pages. *Lots* of charity scams have > put together such "documentation" of "what they've > accomplished." > > Show me real documentation. Show me an article from > an unbiased Indian newspaper in which the reporter went > to each of these locations and counted the students. Then > and only then will I believe it. > > I'm sorry to appear to be so jaded, but I've watched these > "proclamations of success" for 40 years or so, and almost > *all* of them have been either outright lies or hopeful > fantasies. If you can find and post a real followup article > with a non-TM source that indicates that the number of > schools and that the number of students claimed is > accurate, I will heartily applaud the effort. > > And at the same time, I will STILL condemn the TMO and > Maharishi for taking one of the most easily-learned and > potentially-valuable techniques of meditation off the market > and making it unavailable to all but a privileged few. The > paradigm is clear, Lawson -- only those who *deserve* to > meditate get to learn to meditate. You either have to have > enough money to pay the unconsionably high prices, or > you have to be someone whose story or photo or both we > can use to generate more revenue. No one else matters.
Unc makes a good case here: show the evidence. Sort of like `habeas corpus' in criminal cases? What is it called in civil case language, fraud? In the lack of anything like transparent evidence to where the money has gone, it does makes one wonder about the large cynical fraud of it. Last week a guy visiting from India, an Indian cableTV-Swami journalist/celebrity personality, was in FF and wanted a tour of what was going on. He was filming and recording as I started driving the southern FF neighborhoods pointing to the many many common small houses in town where meditators do live and then also took him directly to the several places where meditators now meet for meditation outside the TM.org in town here. Then in a sequence we went around from the meditating town up to campus, the domes and the various housing developments up there to explain/show the FF story. Including going past the Kaplan home and then up to Vedic City. We spent the better part of one day around on the alternative tour. I also urged him to take the standard TM.org tour because it is so impressive on the surface. As we drove I also kept asking him questions about MMY and the TM.org in India. He kept answering saying that while he lives there in India and he gets to travel all over because of his Swami TV cable talkshow and he frankly kept saying that other than some schools that nothing is happening and there really is no presence of either MMY, pundits or the TM.org there in India. I kept after him asserting that we have no way to know what is going on (pundits, schools,$) from here and he kept affirming that there was really no presence of the TM.org in India. The guy quoted a lot from the Gita as we unveiled the tour remarking about the large maya of it all and the pitfall of greed, ego, money, women and power even for the illumined guru. The tour gave him a lot to take back and sermonize over. It really is a great story about human character. In the meantime, we live in it here. -Doug To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
