> > Apparently you have totally misunderstood the 
> > teaching of Dzogchen and "rigpa". Rigpa is the 
> > natural enlightened state - you can't get that 
> > from any teacher by osmosis! 
> >
Vaj:
> Garab Dorje disagreed with you on that one Willy.
> 
Garab Dorje is the semi-historical "first human 
teacher of the Ati Yoga", but he apparently never 
even set foot in Tibet.  

According to Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche, very few 
contemporary disciples are capable of recognition, 
even when receiving "pointing out instructions"
from actual human beings. Obviously you are an 
exception!


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