Yes Vaj, but you haven't explained how/why Garab Dorje's pointing out instructions differ from the Neo-Advaitic (say, of HWL Poonja) pointing out "You are already Enlightened". There's no deliberate transmission of Shakti in Neo-A, since if there were some type of Shaktipat, this would contradict/refute the Neo-Advaitic premise. So what did Garab Dorje have that the Neo-A's don't have.? (aside from meager results!).
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:49 PM, WillyTex wrote: > > >>> > >>> Apparently you have totally misunderstood the > >>> teaching of Dzogchen and "rigpa". Rigpa is the > >>> natural enlightened state - you can't get that > >>> from any teacher by osmosis! > >>> > > Vaj: > >> Garab Dorje disagreed with you on that one Willy. > >> > > Garab Dorje is the semi-historical "first human > > teacher of the Ati Yoga", but he apparently never > > even set foot in Tibet. > > > > According to Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche, very few > > contemporary disciples are capable of recognition, > > even when receiving "pointing out instructions" > > from actual human beings. Obviously you are an > > exception! > > > People who are attached to karmic paths have a hard time "getting" pathless > paths. In some kingdoms in India, such teaching were considered heretical, > with a punishment of death (burning at the stake being a popular punishment). > That's how intertwined the conceptions of karma were with Indian society. > They could not and would not allow for something beyond cause and effect! >
