On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:49 PM, WillyTex wrote: >>> >>> Apparently you have totally misunderstood the >>> teaching of Dzogchen and "rigpa". Rigpa is the >>> natural enlightened state - you can't get that >>> from any teacher by osmosis! >>> > Vaj: >> Garab Dorje disagreed with you on that one Willy. >> > Garab Dorje is the semi-historical "first human > teacher of the Ati Yoga", but he apparently never > even set foot in Tibet. > > According to Orgyen Tobgyal Rinpoche, very few > contemporary disciples are capable of recognition, > even when receiving "pointing out instructions" > from actual human beings. Obviously you are an > exception!
People who are attached to karmic paths have a hard time "getting" pathless paths. In some kingdoms in India, such teaching were considered heretical, with a punishment of death (burning at the stake being a popular punishment). That's how intertwined the conceptions of karma were with Indian society. They could not and would not allow for something beyond cause and effect!
