--- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote: > > We are part and parcel of God, but can never be God, according to Srila > Prabhupada. I believe MMY wanted to say the same thing to you about this > subject. >
No. The point being made here is that when one reaches Cosmic, God, or Unity Consciousness, and then dies, we DO NOT vanish into the void of the undifferentiated Absolute [as the commonly used phrase goes, "The drop becomes the ocean," suggesting that the soul vanishes as an individual soul]. In other words, the comments from both Maharishi and Satyanand clearly indicate that there is STILL an individuality after death when one is enlightened and drops the body. > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I asked Maharishi at TTC [Estes Park, CO] if when we reach UC are we then > > like Krishna. He answered very quickly saying, "No, that would require > > another series of incarnations into bodies finer than the gross physical." > > He then quickly changed the subject and said nothing further about it. > > > > > > To further make the point that dropping the body in 'enlightenment' doesn't > > mean that one completely dissolves, here's a story that Brahmachari > > Satyanand told of his experience after the death of Guru Dev: > > > > --Brahmachari 'Swami' Satyanand speaking c1967 about Guru Dev's 'nirvana'-- > > > > 'When in 1953 Guru Dev left this mortal frame and attained nirvana I was at > > Benares, another place of pilgrimage for Hindus, and at that moment I was > > staying in the ashram of Guru Dev. > > > > Everybody knew that I am very attached to Guru Dev and devoted to Guru Dev, > > and then news came to Benares that Guru Dev has attained nirvana. I was > > sitting somewhere with a group of my friends and the news was relayed there. > > > > When my friends heard that Guru Dev was no more they were very anxious > > about me and when they conveyed that news, they were rather alert to > > appraise whatever reaction is and what happened, I simply, when I heard > > that news I became very sad, very sorry and I just kept my head on the > > table before me. And all of them were very anxious what will become of me. > > > > But soon after, while I was very morose, sorrow, sad, entire world was > > empty for me and I did not understand what to do without Guru Dev, just a > > half a minute or two seconds after, a flash came and it appeared to me that > > Guru Dev was scolding me; > > > > "What a fool you are! You have been with me for all > > these many months and years, and you heard my discourses > > too. Is it a moment of feeling sorry? Why should you be > > sorry today? And you think that I am gone, where am I > > gone? > > > > "Till now whenever you wanted to meet me, you had, you > > had to come to the place where I was, and today when I > > have attained nirvana, I am everywhere, I am omnipresent. > > Where have I gone? > > > > "Very foolish for you to mourn on this occasion. > > I am with you, here, there, everywhere. Why should you > > be sorry?" > > > > And the moment this flash came, my face became very brilliant, I became > > very cheerful. And when I raised my head, my friends who were standing > > there, very anxious and held in suspense, they were upset to see my > > brilliant and cheerful face. And then they said, "What has happened to > > you?" I said, "No you can't understand, nothing has happened to me, I am > > alright, now let me go back to the ashram and make the necessary > > arrangements."' > > > > From: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Satyanand.htm > > >
