--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > He's already said that he missed this point for a very long 
time 
> > > > > (need for Vedic architecture).
> > > > 
> > > > when did he say that?  
> > > 
> > > In what of those online lecture thingies I believe.
> > > 
> > > > And how could him saying such a thing 
> > > > possibly have ANY weight against 30 years of proclamations 
about 
> > > > established in being and then performing action?
> > > 
> > > It was an admission of being less than perfectly correct for 
the last 
> > > 30 years, eh?
> > 
> > I think Shemp's point is that if such a thing were said,
> > it would *also* be an admission that the whole "capture
> > the fort" approach taken in "TM classic" was a crock of
> > shit.  The two propositions are mutually exclusive, not
> > complementary.  Either TM enables one to transcend
> > and thus become enlightened in any environment and
> > in any situation or it doesn't, and one has to live in the 
> > "proper" Vedic environment to become enlightened.
> > 
> > Here's a study for you -- if the founder of a popular 
> > technique of meditation (who promoted it for decades
> > by saying that it was the fastest possible path to enlight-
> > enment) suddenly changes his mind and says that he's
> > been wrong all this time and the only thing that counts
> > is living in a building of the right type...does it make you
> > want to go out and bomb Iraq and buy an SUV?   :-)
> 
> :-)  Yeehaaaaa! (Dr. Strangelove?)
> 
>   Seriously though - if he says that all that matters is a building 
of
> the right type, then 'enlightenment' has a relative cause and the
> whole thing falls apart. 
> 

??? What do you call meditation? And in MMY's theory, someone COULD 
become enlightened due to living a relatively stress-free life, even 
without meditation. Some things are more anti-stress than others. 
MAK, for instance. Conceivably someone could become enlightened by 
eating MAK.





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