--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Nice site. It'd be fun to go sit with him.
> > 
> > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > http://krishnasatsang.com/essay_waking.htm
> > > 
> > > I hear this guy is coming to Fairfield next week.
> 
> I don't know the guy

I don't think you'd care for him much.  Here's his 
description of one of the teachers who works with
Saniel Bonder, from the Web site:

"The second thing that caught my attention was seeing Hillary Davis 
work with one of the participants. Hillary, like me, has a background 
in Advaita Vedanta with Papaji. One of the central understandings of 
many in that school is that attachment to a person's personal story 
(how they see themselves, how they think of themselves and their 
past) is an obstacle to clear seeing and should not be taken too 
seriously.

"What I saw as Hillary listened to one person's story of suffering 
was subtle and difficult to convey: I could clearly see and feel that 
Hillary was seeing this person as consciousness itself, free of all 
limiting definitions of mind AND AT THE SAME TIME Hillary was taking 
the person's story 100% seriously and seemed to be believing 
everything this person conveyed about their life experience. It was 
obvious that the person was being deeply seen as a person complete 
with limitations but not held to them, because they were also seen as 
being free of them."

<snip>
> I will admit that I didn't like her followers much, because
> they had a tendency to ignore everything she was saying
> about not doing *anything* to change their state of con-
> sciousness during the satsang, and instead believed
> that what they felt was all the result of darshan

Is darshan something the *teacher* does?  I thought
it meant something the devotee does, in the sense
of being open to whatever holiness emanates
spontaneously from the teacher.  If the teacher is
the real thing, s/he can't *not* "do" darshan.

That's what I've always heard, at any rate.





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