--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Question below.
> 
> authfriend wrote:
> >  
> > I don't think you'd care for him much.  Here's his 
> > description of one of the teachers who works with
> > Saniel Bonder, from the Web site:
> 
> What follows sounds like a great way to interact with people. Why
> do you say "I don't think you'd care for him much," Judy? Are you 
> being sarcastic?

It sounds great to me too; it's just what I was 
saying awhile back that I think enlightened people
*should* be doing when they're interacting with
people in ignorance--rather than telling them, e.g.,
You only *think* you're overshadowed, or, Stress
release is just an excuse for people who don't
really want to achieve enlightenment.

It's what I think MMY does, at least from what
I've seen of his tapes.  He's able to empathize
with the experiential reality of people in
ignorance and doesn't try to tell them they're
not really having the experience they say they're
having, even though his experiential reality may
be very different.

But not everyone thinks that's such a hot idea.
Several people here objected, some of them quite
scornfully.  So, different strokes for different
folks.





 
> Densely,
> 
> Patrick Gillam
>  
>  
> > "What I saw as Hillary listened to one person's story of 
> > suffering was subtle and difficult to convey: I could clearly see 
> > and feel that Hillary was seeing this person as consciousness 
> > itself, free of all limiting definitions of mind AND AT THE SAME 
> > TIME Hillary was taking the person's story 100% seriously and 
> > seemed to be believing everything this person conveyed about 
> > their life experience. It was obvious that the person was being 
> > deeply seen as a person complete with limitations but not held to 
> > them, because they were also seen as being free of them."






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