--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Just to clarify a bit -- in calling the cause of 
> > > suffering "stories," I am not trying to denigrate the 
experience 
> of 
> > > suffering itself, which is certainly real enough -- merely 
> > > attempting to point out that the suffering arises from self-
> created 
> > > mental dramas which can be unraveled with a bit of 
> inquiry/analysis 
> > > (perhaps akin to Patanjali's "yoga is control of thought-waves 
> of 
> > > the mind").
> > 
> > Or perhaps not.  What you're talking about is
> > psychology.  Nothing wrong with psychology per
> > se, but it's my distinct impression that isn't
> > what Patanjali was into.
> > 
> > Also, I wonder if Buddha would have agreed that
> > "Life is what arises from self-created mental
> > dramas which can be unraveled with a bit of
> > inquiry/analysis."  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> What you mention:  akin to Patanjali's "yoga is control of thought-
> waves of the mind".
> 
> 
> I think would be the opposite. 
> From my understanding of Sanyama, is that we learn to hold pure-
> consciousness(the simplest state of awareness), while we hold an 
> intention.
> If you wish to "unravel mental dramas; I feel you must do the 
> opposite, of 'control'.
> We are learning to 'let go' not 'control.
> The whole process is to be innocent/
> By witnessing, or just watching the mental dramas, realizing we 
are 
> not the mental dramas, by witnessing or watching the feelings that 
> arise from these mental dramas, by witnessing or watching we 
> dissolve the mental dramas or any other type of drama, and what is 
> left, is no drama. 
> The drama doesn't have to be "figured out", it just needs 
release...

Agreed, absolutely. The BK inquiry/analysis I refer to is simply to 
bring an easy counter-current to the one that the mind is 
*habitually* involved in, *totally* sold out to as *the* Reality 
(which belief is the root-cause of the suffering) -- effectively 
dissolving it back into THAT.





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