Bob, OMG, where have you been hiding all these days Bob - love the sarcasm and 
humor in your post - please keep posting - yeah Tom Pall and all that. Welcome 
back to FFL !!

--- In [email protected], Bob Price <bobpriced@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> 
> I don't think you know me and I hope I don't upset you, heaven forbid. But 
> I've 
> been pondering most of the night about how I could do something positive to 
> help 
> Tom and MZ's relationship. More specifically, how I might convince you to 
> make 
> amends to MZ. 
> 
> But before I go on, if you've read any of my stuff you know I'm a terrible 
> digress'er (SIC), I have to take exception with something I thought you said. 
> I 
> may have misunderstood, but did you say Tim Leary could write? Don't get me 
> wrong, I love Tim Leary. Maharishi took five years to show me the light that 
> Tim 
> lead me to in one night. Tim could do many things, turn on a generation, 
> escape 
> prison, avoid getting murdered by Eldridge Cleaver, survive having Charles 
> Mansion in the cell next to him, attract drop dead beautiful women till the 
> day 
> he died, intimidate Ram Dass, successfully, in my opinion, template The 
> Tibetan 
> Book of the Dead over an acid trip, I guess I don't need to go on, but good 
> writing was not part of his formidable arsenal. Talking certainly was, but 
> writing, don't think so. 
> 
> On the other hand, some of us think the old Zebra is an exceptional writer 
> and 
> that will be true no matter how many spitballs you throw at him. Granted most 
> of 
> us need a dictionary and thesaurus to keep up to him but hell with Google 
> that's 
> not an impediment. Unlike what you seem to be implying, I think he may have 
> waited 24 years for the technology to make it easier for us. 
> 
> I know I run the risk of being lumped in with MZ and Ravi but frankly I was 
> disappointed that you didn't include me in that list. As a fellow 
> practitioner 
> of the dark art of sarcasm (from the Greek, Sarc, meaning to draw blood) you 
> know ignoring someone is the most painful of insults. And frankly no one 
> seems 
> to be ignoring the Zebra. (Come on Turq, admit it that you're reading 
> everything 
> that MZ posts. Its getting a bit boring around here, some of us are looking 
> for 
> a real dust up and we think MZ is up to speed and punching in his weight 
> class). 
> Granted, he's not pithy but you know no one has been pithy since Twain or 
> maybe 
> Wilde. I think the correct term for what passes for pithy on FFL is sarcasm 
> although I think Judy, Turq and sal get close sometimes. The Zebra on the 
> other 
> hand is not sarcastic, my suspicion is the his EI is too high for that. 
> 
> Sorry about that, this is looking like the mother of all digressions. 
> 
> Back to the point.
> 
> So when I was pondering how to convince you of the power of an amends, as 
> tasty 
> as a good nights sleep. I was thinking about what you said and how much I 
> like 
> Robins writing. How he reminds me of some old Maronite Saint walking over the 
> Shuf mountains to preach to the multitude (sorry can't get King Tony and the 
> party hats out of my head). Lets just say MZ reminds my of the majesty of a 
> bonsai tree. 
> 
> And that's when it hit me. 
> 
> The I Ching! 
> 
> It was so obvious, "I'll throw the I Ching". MZwrites a bit like the I Ching 
> and 
> who will question the I Ching's sincerity. 
> 
> So Tom I asked the following question, threw the coins (wife won't let me 
> take 
> yarrow stalks on trips) and got the following hexagrams. I'm hoping it helps 
> because frankly I think I have a lot to learn from you, you also know how to 
> punctuate, but I'm not willing to lose MZ for a whole week. I have any number 
> of 
> questions for him, like God leaving the building, Constantine and St. Paul, 
> just 
> to name a few. So please Tom, loosen up!
> 
> Question to the I Ching:
> 
> "What is the best way to encourage Tom to make amends to MZ"?
> 
> The hexagrams
> 
> 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small) 
> 
> changing to 
> 
> 37 Chia Jen / The Family (The Clan)   
> 
> I'm sure many on FFL have a old copy of the I Ching buried under something. 
> So I 
> won't bother with the commentary, if you think MZ writes like the Urantia 
> book 
> try reading the commentary. 
> 
> So just the high points
> 
> 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small) 
> 
> The Judgement
> 
> The taming power of the small
> Has Success
> Dense Clouds, no rain from our western region.
> 
> The Image
> 
> The wind drives across heaven:
> The image of The Taming Power of the Small
> Thus the Superior man 
> Refines the outward aspect of his nature
> 
> Changing lines: (thank God there is only one)
> 
> Nine in the second place means:
> 
> He allows himself to be drawn into returning
> Good fortune
> 
> Changing to:
> 
> 37-The Family (The Clan)
> 
> The Judgement
> 
> The Family. The perseverance of the woman furthers.
> 
> 
> The Image
> 
> Wind comes forth from fire:
> The image of The Family
> Thus the superior man has substance in his words
> And duration in his way of life.
> 
> 
> The reference to fire really jumped out at me. I've battled with anger most 
> of 
> my life. I've come to believe that my passion and love of Agni is where it 
> comes 
> from. That said, I've found the power of "I'm Sorry" changes everything.
> 
> Got to run, the wife is up and she wants to mediate.
> 
> PS: Maybe you could go web based for better filtering functionality. LOL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Pall <thomas.pall@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:44:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William 
> of 
> Occam
> 
>   
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >MZ, ignore Tom - he hates everyone so it's nothing personal.
> >
> >--- In [email protected], Tom Pall <thomas.pall@> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> RC, don't place limits on yourself like that.  Take next week and the week
> >> after and the week after.
> >> 
> >> But Nature's already taking its course.  You're quickly becoming irrelevant
> >> here just as you've become irrelevant wherever you've squatted.  Soon all
> >> that be left behind will be some rotting turds, a God awful stench and
> >> flies.
> >> 
> >
> >
> Quite right.  Nothing personal.  I actually was looking forward to the time 
> when 
> the great legend RC would/could come to visit.  I thought he must be a really 
> cool dude, having done all of that.  But instead he was just another Lory, 
> another Ravi:   Hey everyone.  I'm going to sit at the keyboard and free 
> associate, write nothing coherent but make up for the incoherence in the 
> volume 
> of non-sequitor words, sentences, paragraphs and pages I produce.  You see, 
> when 
> you've had experiences like I've had, when you've been enlightened, you no 
> longer need to nor can write the in vernacular, no longer need to use the 
> idiom 
> of the common, rather highly educated FFLer.  If we can't make out what 
> you're 
> writing, it's because you are so high above us, so very special and well, 
> it's 
> so ineffable that you need to pick random words out of philosophy texts as 
> you 
> type along.    Maharishi didn't find this important.  He we call Guru Dev 
> didn't 
> find this important.  SSRS, Amma, Christ did not find this important.  Nor 
> did 
> the God who spoke to Abraham.  Nor Shankara.  Nor Tim Leary. But you are 
> something very special, beyond all of those and we need to struggle to just 
> to 
> try to make a bit of sense out of what you set down on the screen.  The shear 
> struggle we put forth might help us climb a bit of the ladder to your level.  
>  
> How interesting that we have to struggle our way up the side of a cliff, draw 
> ourselves up a steep ladder when it's actually all about getting from here to 
> here.
> 
> Nothing personal about quantity of words produced.  Barry Wright often fills 
> pages.  Though his messages ever have a slam against TM, Americans (which he, 
> BTW, happens to be) and Judy, he writes compelling stuff in prose where every 
> sentence is terse and tight, one sentence leads to the next, paragraphs tie 
> together, the whole makes sense.  But Barry Wright doesn't put yourself in 
> your 
> class, Thank God.
> 
> I don't care if you had a romance with Maharishi.  In fact, I don't care if 
> you 
> two walked the beach hand in hand saying sweet nothings to each other.  Nor 
> that 
> you launched a campaign against Maharishi and his TMO.   I actually prefer 
> that 
> sort of behavior and history compared to the blissninny postings we get here 
> about this or that TMO event.   
> 
> 
> Yes, I have lots of hates.  One hate is someone who comes to a forum where 
> people communicate with each other, mostly.  The politics can be bizarre, the 
> philosophies can be bizarre, the life experiences are vastly different and 
> yes, 
> there are the awards for the one line zinger or the succinctly worded pithy 
> point summed up in a single sentence.
> 
> It truly is nothing personal, RC.  I wouldn't care if your name was actually 
> Daisy Mae.  You, Ravi and Lory are full of shit.  Or rather you three write 
> shit.  Some are impressed with that.  Surely each of you are impressed with 
> each 
> other's shit.   
> 
> 
> Why not just hit the delete key or put spam filters in place?  Because the 
> way 
> these posts and threads work, I'll begin reading what I think is an 
> interesting 
> post about XYZ.  Turns out it's a response or a response to a response to 
> your 
> keyboard diarrhea.   Can't filter those out as these threads go on forever at 
> times.  If I filter a poster to trash, the entire thread containing a post by 
> someone I'm filtering all wind up in the trash.   A lot of fascinating stuff 
> is 
> lost that way, so I wind up going through my trash to find the otherwise good 
> stuff.
>


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