Building a redemption sequence into a song...! Hmm! With words, or with musical themes alone?
As to Magritte, yes, officer, apparently I did use the word perspicacious. God knows why. Probably just to piss off anyone who wants to be pissed off at us for being more highfalutin than we SHOULD be. We aim (at least unconsciously) to please. As to M's bowler-hatted man with green-apple face, yes, that's a fun one! Another theme of his I like is the floating rock with castle atop it, and another is the painting of a landscape superimposed exactly over the landscape it represents. And then, speaking of the Victim archetype, there is his anaerobic masterpiece, "The Rape"... --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > Interesting. There is a redemption sequence built into the song. I'll post a > link to it soon maybe. Thanks Ro-ri! > > --- In [email protected], "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > Hey, Jim! > > > > It's an interesting question... I tend to see Brown as a saturated version > > of Magenta, the color of the Forestress (or Pisces), whose shadow-side is > > the victim: the confused and betrayed one, who matures through forgiveness > > and temperance into the networker and communal support-group member. One > > might then see Green meeting Brown as a Caregiver (or Priest) helping the > > Victim mature into networking and communion... What about you; how do you > > see Brown, and how do you see Green meeting Brown? > > > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > Ro-ri! You speak about the green caregiver. What can you say about the > > > color brown and its associations? I am putting a song together and > > > decided to call it Green Meets Brown, without really knowing "what that > > > means", and I am curious since you have already spoken about green and > > > red in ways that make effortless sense to me, I am curious about your > > > take on brown. Oh, and this is as one pseudo spacetime particle to > > > another, over and out. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Robin, > > > > > > > > What a beautiful letter from a beautiful soul; the clarity and > > > > integrity of your love feels as sweet and gently pervasive as ever -- > > > > moreso even. I never dreamed you would someday read my account of our > > > > interaction; what an odd feeling of self-recognition that is! And the > > > > occult complexities were just for fun, a work of art, an attempted > > > > self-portrait, its details (I hope) easily ignorable if they don't > > > > resonate. I was also at the time still working things out, trying to > > > > fine-tune a hypothesis which accounted for all the raw data. Things > > > > have simplfied considerably since then. > > > > > > > > I feel I do understand your need to integrate or account for all of us > > > > who interact with you. FWIW, sometime within the first few years of my > > > > posting here, Tom Pall expressed a fervent desire that Homeland > > > > Security would take me away and shoot me (and please correct me if I am > > > > misrepresenting you here, Tom), I suspect because I had just described > > > > my strong feeling that 9/11 was an inside job. But the effect of his > > > > posting was beautiful. I felt gut-punched, eviscerated, and actually > > > > did refrain from posting for a few days while I integrated "his" anger > > > > and wish that I would die -- in fact, "I" died yet again, internally, > > > > for those three days. > > > > > > > > And the result was that I found I had been repressing or ignoring my > > > > "Tom-persona" while identifying with a "compassionate persona" which > > > > appeared to be anti-Tom. (In my parlance, I had been ignoring my Red > > > > Man or Warrior while overemphasizing my Green Man or Compassionate > > > > Caregiver. The shadow-side or "demonic" of our Red Man is thwarted > > > > desire, fury, bullying and even indiscriminate killing, which when > > > > reintegrated ripens into zeal and a sense of divine timing or > > > > chronological order). In reintegrating my idea of Tom I found my > > > > unconditional love for him-Us again, and we have gotten along OK since > > > > then. (In my world, at least.) :-) Of course this may be of no value to > > > > you and have nothing whatsoever to do with you or your world, but who > > > > knows? I thought I would share it anyhow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rory, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for this. There is more of a loving intelligence > > > > > that comes through your writing (and that description of your > > > > > encounter with me back in 1982, well, it's so fair and objective and > > > > > generous, I have always appreciated how you attempted to get at the > > > > > truth (or the reality) of what was going on between us then). > > > > > > > > > > When someone responds positively to one, and there is real feeling > > > > > there, it seems as if the universe itself is being friendly. In what > > > > > you have said here, there is nothing but a true person speaking > > > > > unaffectedlyyour sincerity gets through to me. > > > > > > > > > > The question remains, however, whether Tom Pall's judgment of me is > > > > > equally sincere, not to say objectively true. I can't doubt his > > > > > sincerity, but, if I felt what he said reflected reality's judgment > > > > > of me, I certainly would have no choice but to leave off posting here. > > > > > > > > > > So, naturally, I am going to let myself be influenced more by what > > > > > you have said to me, Rory. If, however Tom's feelings have some real > > > > > justification, then I will have to hear him out. Meanwhile, it would > > > > > be hard for me not to experience that what you have told me hereand > > > > > the love that carries your wordsto be more congruent with the person > > > > > that I am. > > > > > > > > > > I must suppose that my antipathy towards and disillusionment with my > > > > > Master is perhaps part of the explanation for Tom's reaction? Yes, > > > > > the Romance of my relationship with Maharishi was, so far, the > > > > > greatest event of my life. At its height, had I been told that > > > > > Maharishi was not what he seemed, nor that my experience of TM was > > > > > metaphysically valid, I would have felt pity for the person who told > > > > > me this. > > > > > > > > > > But having renounced Maharishi, his Teaching, and TM in the > > > > > comprehensive way I have, I can understand Tom Pall's aversion to me > > > > > and my posts (assuming he is still loyal to Maharishi). If I, in the > > > > > intensity of my love and adoration of Maharishi had read anything > > > > > like what I am now posting, well not responding like Tom is, I would > > > > > nevertheless be determined to counter-attack in the fiercest and most > > > > > uncompromising way. The critic of Maharishi and TM would get my very > > > > > best shot. It would, after all, be my religious duty to respond this > > > > > wayand I would believe I was only defending ultimate truth in doing > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > But perhaps in Tom's case it's more than this, or something other > > > > > than this. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I can believe that your more loving intention is the > > > > > appropriate one, and that Tom is fighting a rearguard action on > > > > > behalf of Maharishi and the TMOof course I don't know this. I don't > > > > > know anything about Tom Pall. But before reading what you wrote to > > > > > me, Rory, I had very seriously contemplated not posting again until > > > > > the 9th of Julyat the earliest. Just to let Tom's judgment have some > > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > > > But you have persuaded me (love is like that, isn't it) to abandon > > > > > this tentative plan, and so I remain open to posting, even though I > > > > > must respect the experience of Tom's which gives him no alternative > > > > > but to express his intense disapproval of me. > > > > > > > > > > Who knows, perhaps God deems his judgment the more appropriate onein > > > > > comparison to yours. But I am praying this is not the case. > > > > > > > > > > If I may say it, in beginning to read your autobiography online I > > > > > sense the virtual symphony of feelings, intuitions, visions, > > > > > inspirations which musically and mystically play inside your > > > > > consciousness. It is a little much for me to follow you in all this, > > > > > especially when it starts to get complexly occult and mysterious. But > > > > > your motives are transparent and authentic, so I must believe you > > > > > have acquired some grace and wisdom in your intricate interface with > > > > > religious truth. And I never sense someone dogmatic or deceived, or > > > > > disconnected from realityno matter how esoteric your ideas are. I > > > > > will persist in my attempt to read through to the end, although, as I > > > > > say, it is much easier (for me) in the beginningfor example your > > > > > account of the India course in 1980. That riveted me. In fact > > > > > ANYONE'S careful reflections on their experiences with Maharishi are > > > > > always of extreme interest to me. > > > > > > > > > > Rory, I didn't set out to write at such length as I have. Perhaps I > > > > > just started to realize subconsciously that I somehow owed you the > > > > > gratitude of your unbiased reporting of your experience with me, when > > > > > I was performing out of the experience of my putative enlightenment > > > > > (which has a place in your autobiography). > > > > > > > > > > In any case I will just express my thanks once more for the support > > > > > you have given me by writing as you have. Because, believe me, Rory, > > > > > it produced the desired effect. > > > > > > > > > > MZ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
