Hey Bob - thanks for you kind comments and a great post, yet again,
looks like MZ finally got back to you so hopefully that should lift your
spirits. May be we can indeed learn from Rick and try to emulate his
strategy of just dropping in the FFL Pub and saying hello instead of
spending the whole evening getting involved in brawls. So even a few
drinks.. oops posts, once in a while here from you should work,
challenging syntax and everything.
--- In [email protected], Bob Price <bobpriced@...> wrote:
>
> Ravi,
>
> I want to thank you for your heart felt response to my post. Even more
so as I
> know you were getting close to your limit and there were so many other
more
> interesting topics to jump in to. You're a generous soul which, for
me, says
> everything about your state of consciousness.
>
> Starting a new threat can be a very heart-rending business. I'm trying
my level
> best to be relevant on FFL but frankly I'm not sure I'm up to the
task. I
> understand Tom ignoring me, he decided to take the high road which was
no
> surprise as I always suspected he's a better man than I am. But what
hurts, I
> mean really hurts, is that my UN-master appears to be ignoring me
along with
> just about everyone else on FFL. This stings, like the lash of a whip
or a kiss
> from Scarlett Johansson (sort of a quote from Hans Seyle, another
great
> Canadian-although he never claimed UC-and frankly I never thought he
had the
> commercial potential of our Canadian).
>
> Looking closer at this overwhelming sense of abandonment I'm feeling
(isn't
> there another Vedic myth that addresses this also) I can't help
thinking of one
> of my hero's on FFL. Of course, that would be Rick Archer. I think
Rick has done
> more for freedom of speech than Rupert Murdoch, GE, Disney and Garner
Ted
> Armstrong combined. But in with many Hero-admirer relationships (IE.
my
> relationship with MZ) there is a little jealousy from the admirers
side of
> things. Don't get me wrong I'm not jealous of Ricks success with
BatGap. I love
> BatGap but I think my upcoming pod-cast, Zombie in my Gas Tank is a
comer (like
> with enlightenment I think narcissism is a growth industry). No its
not that.
> What I'm green eyed with envy about is Rick's incredible talent for
staying away
> from FFL for weeks at a time (I suspect unlike most of us on FFL, he
actually
> has a life) and then checking in to see how much blood needs to be
cleaned up
> and then lobs in a bone of some kind, usually not wasting anything
with meat on
> it, and voila we get a 2 to 300 post thread. How the hell does Rick do
it? I
> mean we know how my UN-master does it, he's actually famous. OK, some
would say
> notorious but I think famous is closer to the mark. And granted, Turq
is good,
> possibly great. But I think the way Turq has grabbed the Goddess
Nemeses fancy
> is no more than a niche market. Rick on the other hand is at least
cosmic, if
> not godly, in his ability to do less and accomplish something truly
incredible.
> Me on the other rely on the kindness of strangers like you and Rory.
Don't get
> me wrong, if I'm going to be loved I want it to be from people with
heart.
>
> So Ravi, as I'm sure you've surmised I'm a bit down in the dumps. I'm
worried
> that MZ is thinking Ive gone over to the dark side and with my
challenging
> syntax I'm not even worth the bother. Now that he's throwing punches
with real
> contenders I'm not worth the bother. Well I don't think its true that
I don't
> know how to ask a real question. I met Krishnamurti twice (in fact,
both times
> for a week) so i definitely know how to ask a question. I think
everyone would
> agree there are a few of my questions hanging out there for MZ.
Granted some of
> them weren't weren't worth the bother but frankly I think my question
about
> transcending and snoring is up there with "What was your face before
your
> parents were born"?
>
> And as I've said more than once I have lots more questions were that
came from.
> Like what does he think of 312 AD as in the Milvian Bridge as the
foundation of
> what we know as Roman Catholicism? More specifically, what does he
think of
> Constantine murdering his son Crispus and scalding his wife Fausta to
death
> while he was trying to keep Athanasius and Arius from each other
throats at the
> Council of Nicaea so they settle down and pick the best 4 of the 27
gospels on
> the table on time. I understood as a worshipper of Apolo he thought 4
were the
> ticket. Again I got collection plate full of these. And I hope MZ
doesn't think
> I'm just another non dualist. Not true, I learned some time ago that
there is a
> God and its not me!
>
> LOL Ravi.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@...
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 1:09:55 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tom, MZ and The I Ching
>
>
> Bob, OMG, where have you been hiding all these days Bob - love the
sarcasm and
> humor in your post - please keep posting - yeah Tom Pall and all that.
Welcome
> back to FFL !!
>
> --- In [email protected], Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > I don't think you know me and I hope I don't upset you, heaven
forbid. But I've
> >
> > been pondering most of the night about how I could do something
positive to
> >help
> >
> > Tom and MZ's relationship. More specifically, how I might convince
you to make
>
> > amends to MZ.
> >
> > But before I go on, if you've read any of my stuff you know I'm a
terrible
> > digress'er (SIC), I have to take exception with something I thought
you said. I
> >
> > may have misunderstood, but did you say Tim Leary could write? Don't
get me
> > wrong, I love Tim Leary. Maharishi took five years to show me the
light that
> >Tim
> >
> > lead me to in one night. Tim could do many things, turn on a
generation, escape
> >
> > prison, avoid getting murdered by Eldridge Cleaver, survive having
Charles
> > Mansion in the cell next to him, attract drop dead beautiful women
till the day
> >
> > he died, intimidate Ram Dass, successfully, in my opinion, template
The Tibetan
> >
> > Book of the Dead over an acid trip, I guess I don't need to go on,
but good
> > writing was not part of his formidable arsenal. Talking certainly
was, but
> > writing, don't think so.
> >
> > On the other hand, some of us think the old Zebra is an exceptional
writer and
>
> > that will be true no matter how many spitballs you throw at him.
Granted most
> >of
> >
> > us need a dictionary and thesaurus to keep up to him but hell with
Google
> >that's
> >
> > not an impediment. Unlike what you seem to be implying, I think he
may have
> > waited 24 years for the technology to make it easier for us.
> >
> > I know I run the risk of being lumped in with MZ and Ravi but
frankly I was
> > disappointed that you didn't include me in that list. As a fellow
practitioner
>
> > of the dark art of sarcasm (from the Greek, Sarc, meaning to draw
blood) you
> > know ignoring someone is the most painful of insults. And frankly no
one seems
>
> > to be ignoring the Zebra. (Come on Turq, admit it that you're
reading
> >everything
> >
> > that MZ posts. Its getting a bit boring around here, some of us are
looking for
> >
> > a real dust up and we think MZ is up to speed and punching in his
weight
> >class).
> >
> > Granted, he's not pithy but you know no one has been pithy since
Twain or maybe
> >
> > Wilde. I think the correct term for what passes for pithy on FFL is
sarcasm
> > although I think Judy, Turq and sal get close sometimes. The Zebra
on the other
> >
> > hand is not sarcastic, my suspicion is the his EI is too high for
that.
> >
> > Sorry about that, this is looking like the mother of all
digressions.
> >
> > Back to the point.
> >
> > So when I was pondering how to convince you of the power of an
amends, as tasty
> >
> > as a good nights sleep. I was thinking about what you said and how
much I like
>
> > Robins writing. How he reminds me of some old Maronite Saint walking
over the
> > Shuf mountains to preach to the multitude (sorry can't get King Tony
and the
> > party hats out of my head). Lets just say MZ reminds my of the
majesty of a
> > bonsai tree.
> >
> > And that's when it hit me.
> >
> > The I Ching!
> >
> > It was so obvious, "I'll throw the I Ching". MZwrites a bit like the
I Ching
> >and
> >
> > who will question the I Ching's sincerity.
> >
> > So Tom I asked the following question, threw the coins (wife won't
let me take
>
> > yarrow stalks on trips) and got the following hexagrams. I'm hoping
it helps
> > because frankly I think I have a lot to learn from you, you also
know how to
> > punctuate, but I'm not willing to lose MZ for a whole week. I have
any number
> >of
> >
> > questions for him, like God leaving the building, Constantine and
St. Paul,
> >just
> >
> > to name a few. So please Tom, loosen up!
> >
> > Question to the I Ching:
> >
> > "What is the best way to encourage Tom to make amends to MZ"?
> >
> > The hexagrams
> >
> > 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small)
> >
> > changing to
> >
> > 37 Chia Jen / The Family (The Clan)
> >
> > I'm sure many on FFL have a old copy of the I Ching buried under
something. So
> >I
> >
> > won't bother with the commentary, if you think MZ writes like the
Urantia book
>
> > try reading the commentary.
> >
> > So just the high points
> >
> > 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small)
> >
> > The Judgement
> >
> > The taming power of the small
> > Has Success
> > Dense Clouds, no rain from our western region.
> >
> > The Image
> >
> > The wind drives across heaven:
> > The image of The Taming Power of the Small
> > Thus the Superior man
> > Refines the outward aspect of his nature
> >
> > Changing lines: (thank God there is only one)
> >
> > Nine in the second place means:
> >
> > He allows himself to be drawn into returning
> > Good fortune
> >
> > Changing to:
> >
> > 37-The Family (The Clan)
> >
> > The Judgement
> >
> > The Family. The perseverance of the woman furthers.
> >
> >
> > The Image
> >
> > Wind comes forth from fire:
> > The image of The Family
> > Thus the superior man has substance in his words
> > And duration in his way of life.
> >
> >
> > The reference to fire really jumped out at me. I've battled with
anger most of
>
> > my life. I've come to believe that my passion and love of Agni is
where it
> >comes
> >
> > from. That said, I've found the power of "I'm Sorry" changes
everything.
> >
> > Got to run, the wife is up and she wants to mediate.
> >
> > PS: Maybe you could go web based for better filtering functionality.
LOL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:44:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe
William of
>
> > Occam
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >MZ, ignore Tom - he hates everyone so it's nothing personal.
> > >
> > >--- In [email protected], Tom Pall <thomas.pall@>
wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> RC, don't place limits on yourself like that. Take next week and
the week
> > >> after and the week after.
> > >>
> > >> But Nature's already taking its course. You're quickly becoming
irrelevant
> > >> here just as you've become irrelevant wherever you've squatted.
Soon all
> > >> that be left behind will be some rotting turds, a God awful
stench and
> > >> flies.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > Quite right. Nothing personal. I actually was looking forward to
the time
> >when
> >
> > the great legend RC would/could come to visit. I thought he must be
a really
> > cool dude, having done all of that. But instead he was just another
Lory,
> > another Ravi: Hey everyone. I'm going to sit at the keyboard and
free
> > associate, write nothing coherent but make up for the incoherence in
the volume
> >
> > of non-sequitor words, sentences, paragraphs and pages I produce.
You see,
> >when
> >
> > you've had experiences like I've had, when you've been enlightened,
you no
> > longer need to nor can write the in vernacular, no longer need to
use the idiom
> >
> > of the common, rather highly educated FFLer. If we can't make out
what you're
>
> > writing, it's because you are so high above us, so very special and
well, it's
>
> > so ineffable that you need to pick random words out of philosophy
texts as you
>
> > type along. Maharishi didn't find this important. He we call
Guru Dev
> >didn't
> >
> > find this important. SSRS, Amma, Christ did not find this important.
Nor did
> > the God who spoke to Abraham. Nor Shankara. Nor Tim Leary. But you
are
> > something very special, beyond all of those and we need to struggle
to just to
>
> > try to make a bit of sense out of what you set down on the screen.
The shear
> > struggle we put forth might help us climb a bit of the ladder to
your level.
> > How interesting that we have to struggle our way up the side of a
cliff, draw
> > ourselves up a steep ladder when it's actually all about getting
from here to
> > here.
> >
> > Nothing personal about quantity of words produced. Barry Wright
often fills
> > pages. Though his messages ever have a slam against TM, Americans
(which he,
> > BTW, happens to be) and Judy, he writes compelling stuff in prose
where every
> > sentence is terse and tight, one sentence leads to the next,
paragraphs tie
> > together, the whole makes sense. But Barry Wright doesn't put
yourself in your
> >
> > class, Thank God.
> >
> > I don't care if you had a romance with Maharishi. In fact, I don't
care if you
> >
> > two walked the beach hand in hand saying sweet nothings to each
other. Nor
> >that
> >
> > you launched a campaign against Maharishi and his TMO. I actually
prefer that
> >
> > sort of behavior and history compared to the blissninny postings we
get here
> > about this or that TMO event.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I have lots of hates. One hate is someone who comes to a forum
where
> > people communicate with each other, mostly. The politics can be
bizarre, the
> > philosophies can be bizarre, the life experiences are vastly
different and yes,
> >
> > there are the awards for the one line zinger or the succinctly
worded pithy
> > point summed up in a single sentence.
> >
> > It truly is nothing personal, RC. I wouldn't care if your name was
actually
> > Daisy Mae. You, Ravi and Lory are full of shit. Or rather you
three write
> > shit. Some are impressed with that. Surely each of you are
impressed with
> >each
> >
> > other's shit.
> >
> >
> > Why not just hit the delete key or put spam filters in place?
Because the way
>
> > these posts and threads work, I'll begin reading what I think is an
interesting
> >
> > post about XYZ. Turns out it's a response or a response to a
response to your
>
> > keyboard diarrhea. Can't filter those out as these threads go on
forever at
> > times. If I filter a poster to trash, the entire thread containing
a post by
> > someone I'm filtering all wind up in the trash. A lot of
fascinating stuff is
> >
> > lost that way, so I wind up going through my trash to find the
otherwise good
> > stuff.
> >
>
