Tom, I don't think you know me and I hope I don't upset you, heaven forbid. But I've been pondering most of the night about how I could do something positive to help Tom and MZ's relationship. More specifically, how I might convince you to make amends to MZ.
But before I go on, if you've read any of my stuff you know I'm a terrible digress'er (SIC), I have to take exception with something I thought you said. I may have misunderstood, but did you say Tim Leary could write? Don't get me wrong, I love Tim Leary. Maharishi took five years to show me the light that Tim lead me to in one night. Tim could do many things, turn on a generation, escape prison, avoid getting murdered by Eldridge Cleaver, survive having Charles Mansion in the cell next to him, attract drop dead beautiful women till the day he died, intimidate Ram Dass, successfully, in my opinion, template The Tibetan Book of the Dead over an acid trip, I guess I don't need to go on, but good writing was not part of his formidable arsenal. Talking certainly was, but writing, don't think so. On the other hand, some of us think the old Zebra is an exceptional writer and that will be true no matter how many spitballs you throw at him. Granted most of us need a dictionary and thesaurus to keep up to him but hell with Google that's not an impediment. Unlike what you seem to be implying, I think he may have waited 24 years for the technology to make it easier for us. I know I run the risk of being lumped in with MZ and Ravi but frankly I was disappointed that you didn't include me in that list. As a fellow practitioner of the dark art of sarcasm (from the Greek, Sarc, meaning to draw blood) you know ignoring someone is the most painful of insults. And frankly no one seems to be ignoring the Zebra. (Come on Turq, admit it that you're reading everything that MZ posts. Its getting a bit boring around here, some of us are looking for a real dust up and we think MZ is up to speed and punching in his weight class). Granted, he's not pithy but you know no one has been pithy since Twain or maybe Wilde. I think the correct term for what passes for pithy on FFL is sarcasm although I think Judy, Turq and sal get close sometimes. The Zebra on the other hand is not sarcastic, my suspicion is the his EI is too high for that. Sorry about that, this is looking like the mother of all digressions. Back to the point. So when I was pondering how to convince you of the power of an amends, as tasty as a good nights sleep. I was thinking about what you said and how much I like Robins writing. How he reminds me of some old Maronite Saint walking over the Shuf mountains to preach to the multitude (sorry can't get King Tony and the party hats out of my head). Lets just say MZ reminds my of the majesty of a bonsai tree. And that's when it hit me. The I Ching! It was so obvious, "I'll throw the I Ching". MZwrites a bit like the I Ching and who will question the I Ching's sincerity. So Tom I asked the following question, threw the coins (wife won't let me take yarrow stalks on trips) and got the following hexagrams. I'm hoping it helps because frankly I think I have a lot to learn from you, you also know how to punctuate, but I'm not willing to lose MZ for a whole week. I have any number of questions for him, like God leaving the building, Constantine and St. Paul, just to name a few. So please Tom, loosen up! Question to the I Ching: "What is the best way to encourage Tom to make amends to MZ"? The hexagrams 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small) changing to 37 Chia Jen / The Family (The Clan) I'm sure many on FFL have a old copy of the I Ching buried under something. So I won't bother with the commentary, if you think MZ writes like the Urantia book try reading the commentary. So just the high points 9 - HsiaoCh'u (The Taming Power of the Small) The Judgement The taming power of the small Has Success Dense Clouds, no rain from our western region. The Image The wind drives across heaven: The image of The Taming Power of the Small Thus the Superior man Refines the outward aspect of his nature Changing lines: (thank God there is only one) Nine in the second place means: He allows himself to be drawn into returning Good fortune Changing to: 37-The Family (The Clan) The Judgement The Family. The perseverance of the woman furthers. The Image Wind comes forth from fire: The image of The Family Thus the superior man has substance in his words And duration in his way of life. The reference to fire really jumped out at me. I've battled with anger most of my life. I've come to believe that my passion and love of Agni is where it comes from. That said, I've found the power of "I'm Sorry" changes everything. Got to run, the wife is up and she wants to mediate. PS: Maybe you could go web based for better filtering functionality. LOL ________________________________ From: Tom Pall <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 5:44:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Ravi Yogi <[email protected]> wrote: > >MZ, ignore Tom - he hates everyone so it's nothing personal. > >--- In [email protected], Tom Pall <thomas.pall@...> wrote: >> > >> RC, don't place limits on yourself like that. Take next week and the week >> after and the week after. >> >> But Nature's already taking its course. You're quickly becoming irrelevant >> here just as you've become irrelevant wherever you've squatted. Soon all >> that be left behind will be some rotting turds, a God awful stench and >> flies. >> > > Quite right. Nothing personal. I actually was looking forward to the time when the great legend RC would/could come to visit. I thought he must be a really cool dude, having done all of that. But instead he was just another Lory, another Ravi: Hey everyone. I'm going to sit at the keyboard and free associate, write nothing coherent but make up for the incoherence in the volume of non-sequitor words, sentences, paragraphs and pages I produce. You see, when you've had experiences like I've had, when you've been enlightened, you no longer need to nor can write the in vernacular, no longer need to use the idiom of the common, rather highly educated FFLer. If we can't make out what you're writing, it's because you are so high above us, so very special and well, it's so ineffable that you need to pick random words out of philosophy texts as you type along. Maharishi didn't find this important. He we call Guru Dev didn't find this important. SSRS, Amma, Christ did not find this important. Nor did the God who spoke to Abraham. Nor Shankara. Nor Tim Leary. But you are something very special, beyond all of those and we need to struggle to just to try to make a bit of sense out of what you set down on the screen. The shear struggle we put forth might help us climb a bit of the ladder to your level. How interesting that we have to struggle our way up the side of a cliff, draw ourselves up a steep ladder when it's actually all about getting from here to here. Nothing personal about quantity of words produced. Barry Wright often fills pages. Though his messages ever have a slam against TM, Americans (which he, BTW, happens to be) and Judy, he writes compelling stuff in prose where every sentence is terse and tight, one sentence leads to the next, paragraphs tie together, the whole makes sense. But Barry Wright doesn't put yourself in your class, Thank God. I don't care if you had a romance with Maharishi. In fact, I don't care if you two walked the beach hand in hand saying sweet nothings to each other. Nor that you launched a campaign against Maharishi and his TMO. I actually prefer that sort of behavior and history compared to the blissninny postings we get here about this or that TMO event. Yes, I have lots of hates. One hate is someone who comes to a forum where people communicate with each other, mostly. The politics can be bizarre, the philosophies can be bizarre, the life experiences are vastly different and yes, there are the awards for the one line zinger or the succinctly worded pithy point summed up in a single sentence. It truly is nothing personal, RC. I wouldn't care if your name was actually Daisy Mae. You, Ravi and Lory are full of shit. Or rather you three write shit. Some are impressed with that. Surely each of you are impressed with each other's shit. Why not just hit the delete key or put spam filters in place? Because the way these posts and threads work, I'll begin reading what I think is an interesting post about XYZ. Turns out it's a response or a response to a response to your keyboard diarrhea. Can't filter those out as these threads go on forever at times. If I filter a poster to trash, the entire thread containing a post by someone I'm filtering all wind up in the trash. A lot of fascinating stuff is lost that way, so I wind up going through my trash to find the otherwise good stuff.
