--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > I note there is a Catholic priest in Brazil teaching children 
> > Transcendental Meditation. I have seen the David Lynch tape. An obviously 
> > sincere and heroic character, this priest nevertheless (it's not his fault: 
> > his Church can't deliver on the goods regarding God like TM can; and this 
> > became obvious to him, which is why he made that most ironic of decisions: 
> > to became a TM Teacher) is betraying Christ as it were. Else why have Saint 
> > Francis Xavier destroying the Hindu statues in India in the 16th 
> > century—all the while moving and acting within a brilliant supernatural 
> > grace? Now those Hindu statues have been invisibly erected inside the 
> > interiority of his priesthood.
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> > But this, of course, authfriend, is the current dilemma of the Catholic 
> > Church, and this priest but an innocent victim. His Catholicism cannot 
> > provide him with the verification of the truth of his religion, so he has 
> > turned elsewhere, and become, within his calling as a priest, a bloody TM 
> > initiator. Someone teaching children to worship a Hindu god (praying to 
> > their mantra). Whereas, according to orthodox—pre-Vatican II—belief, these 
> > Hindu gods are fallen angels in disguise—and are thus banished from heaven, 
> > and are the enemies of the immortal soul of this Brazilian priest.
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> Like I said MZ;  you definately need a checking.
> No, make that 3.
 
Dear nablusoss,

The striking thing about this response of yours, nablusoss is that were I the 
convinced TM initiator that I was (early and mid seventies) I would experience 
the perfect truth of this antidote. Not through any kind of unthinking 
dogmatism, but 'just taking it naturally', this is what would innocently and 
spontaneously occur to me: "You definitely need a checking."

That is how thoroughly Maharishi trained and conditioned us; that we would 
consider this response (to someone saying what I have said about the Brazilian 
priest) not only the correct one, but, even in some sense from the point of 
view of 'God', the right one. 

In other words, your response is not arbitrary and unthinking; it takes into 
its train (seemingly) the entire universe; for this is what we were 
representing: the reality of things. If anyone began to have these kinds of 
thoughts (as expressed by me in my long post to authfriend) God himself would 
recommend just this remedy.

And Indeed we would know that once having been checked (ideally three times) we 
would be confident, if we showed him what he had written, he would remark—in 
some way or another: "Oh, dear; you're right. I don't feel that way at al about 
this matter now. I wish I had not written that."

Because, of course, he (me) just needed to an experience of a higher state of 
consciousness, and immediately that which he had done from a more limited 
(narrow angled lens in MMY speak) would be seen—post-checking—as not 
representative of his (my) thinking after transcending.

Now, I suppose you meant this both seriously and facetiously. But remembering 
what it was like to be an initiator, I deem your remedy entirely effectual; but 
more importantly, the only one. And even beyond this, the true and right remedy 
[from the widest angled lens there could be].

Teaching TM, checking someone's meditation (the procedure of initiation, the 
checking notes): these are the two most brilliant and efficacious methods of 
inducing a religious experience in my lifetime.

But to re-emphasize my main idea here, nablusoss: the way one would know that 
this is the appropriate response to someone who would post something like this 
(about the Brazilian priest) went down into us initiators as deep as anything 
could go—I mean while one is under the spell of the incomparable Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi, and certain that the experiences delivered to one through 
Transcendental Meditation are objectively true.

As if the hungry infant only needs the Mother's breast, and he will stop crying.

Meanwhile I have disavowed these truths; more than this, I have come to 
experience that TM and Maharishi exercised, in the end, a deleterious influence 
over my mind and body and soul. Even though I very much doubt in my lifetime I 
will ever have such glorious experiences [TM], nor feel such perfect love [for 
Maharishi].

What you say in response then to me, nablusoss, just underscores how subtle and 
profound this whole business of Maharishi and TM really was, and is.

Because, as I say, I can contact the deep memory inside of me which recognizes 
the brilliant truth of your response—after all, I would say and think and 
apprehend the appropriateness of, exactly what you have said to me.
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