--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > "Bad stress. Evil stress. If it weren't for stress, I'd be
> > enlightened."
>
> Another useful aspect of the stress/samskaras idea is
> to convey to the student that while it's their
> responsibility to get rid of it, they aren't to blame
> for having accumulated it in the first place. This
> can be potentially liberating.
I should point out that according to the theory of
karma, they *are*, in fact, responsible for having
accumulated the samskaras in the first place.
Which is why liberation is possible. Having created
the karma via thought and action, one can create
balancing karma via different thoughts and actions
and effectively nullify the samskaras.
> <snip>
> > P.S. In case you've never encountered it, one approach that
> > is sometimes taken by some spiritual teachers when dealing
> > with students who have established a history of clinging to
> > their stories is to poke fun at the student for doing so. Since
> > this number has been run on me many times, I can attest that
> > sometimes it works, and the student actually makes a break-
> > through and laughs at him self or her self and the stories no
> > longer have any power over them. Sometimes all it does is
> > reinforce the stories and make the student angry. Basically,
> > for both student and teacher, it's a crapshoot...you never know
> > how it's going to turn out.
>
> I'd suggest that being able to correctly determine
> how it's going to turn out is the sign of a good
> teacher ("skillful means" and all that).
If that were true, every enlightened teacher would
have created a bunch of enlightened students. But
it didn't turn out that way. Therefore, I stick with the
term "crapshoot." Sometimes you roll a 7, sometimes
snake eyes.
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