Your claim is easy to make, and there is a very ancient tradition
surrounding this process.  Just show up with much more lethal
weaponery than the current inhabitants have, and the land is all
yours.

Didn't you know that God traditionally grants people land in
this manner?


--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > snip
> > > > > > Right, so why can't Israel exist peacefully in 'Palestine'?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Beats me, though I don't think the 'we were here first' 
> > argument works well. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Probably because the Israeli state was created by the British 
> > from seized Arab land in the late 40's, in order to weaken the Arab 
> > > > > nationalist movement. No one ever goes for that stuff, and 
> > there has been war there ever since.
> > > > 
> > > > I think you are mistaken, the *JEWS* bought most of the land 
> > from 
> > > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The JEWS 
> > made
> > > > it 
> > > > what it is today....isn't that reason enough? (Plus having been 
> > there 
> > > > since the beginning of time).
> > > 
> > > Is that the 6000 year old "beginning of time" per the Old Testement
> > > (as interpreted by some) or the 20 million years ago "beginning of
> > > time" that the progenitors of all current humanity migrated out of
> > > Ethiopia, or the 6 billion? years beginning of time when the earth 
> > was
> > > created, ot the 20? billions years ago "beginning of time" since 
> > the
> > > big bang?
> > 
> > I have read that 80 to 90 percent of Israel's population is 
> > Ashkenazi, who are thought to be caucasoid descendants of the 
> > eastern-European Khazars, who never lived in the Near- or Middle-
> > East, and who converted to Judaism as late as the 7th or 8th century 
> > CE. Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who actually 
> > *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and who 
> > (I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class 
> > citizens in Israel.
> 
> Cultural / religious claims of owning and having eternal rights to a
> portion of the earth based on where ones ancestors lived, (sometimes a
> dubious claims, as illustrated above), seems a rather odd argument. My
> ancestors owned a lot of land in Ireland, just ouside Dublin. Can I
> claim it? Others owned lots of land in what are now (not then) ritzy
> resort areas. Can I claim several acres of prime real estate there? I
> would be an instant billionaire. Help me out here, because I would
> love to make these claims.




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