--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
snip > > Eventually, absolutely. I am convinced that one of > the key elements involved in realization of one's > own > enlightenment involves making that jump from > trusting > others more than one trusts one's own perceptions to > > trusting one's own perceptions more than one trusts > others. > > Others can comment if they'd like. One's mileage > may, > of course, vary on this subject, but I'd suspect > that > those here who have experienced awakenings would > tend > to agree that a certain level of self-trust is > neces- > sary for the realization to happen in the first > place > and then to sustain itself. It'll be interesting to > see what people here think of this question. I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive act. You have to trust when there is doubt for whatever reason. It's hard to doubt your own experience, even in waking state. But doubting "pure existence" itself is even more difficult! To say I doubt my own existence is a bit of a paradox, of course, because prior to doubting is existence. So you can't doubt that "you are." You can doubt any experience, but not that. Now to inquire into who this "you" is will bring about some interesting results! But more importantly doubt/no doubt has to do with mind. Realization is outside of mind. It is not an experience within any objective or subjective domain. When mind trys to look at pure consciousness like some kind of object, it completely flattens and disappears. This question of doubt assumes that realization is some sort of experience. Realization is not an experience. Realization is not an intellectual act, although the intellect can be used as a tool to discriminate to what is profoundly self-evident. To doubt realization is a mental act only and has nothing to do with realization. Doubt of "one's" realization only occurs because of very, very long standing mental habits that force the mind to say, "Is this it? Is this it?" It's like standing outside in the rain and asking, "Is it raining?" Sometimes the mind needs to hear someone say," It's raining!" and this destroys the mental habit, the bondage to mind. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
