note: Apostates must have their "garments" (official underwear) taken away. http://www.rhsager.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/mormonunderwear.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > Dear Nablusoss, > > > > They clearly missed the destination. Evidently Tqb, CDb and these other > > negativistic writers here are bound in states of apostasy. For lack of > > experience they clearly are in states of formal disaffiliation from or > > abandonment or renunciation of any possibility of spiritualized or awakened > > experience by a person, particularly persons having any connection to > > practicing Transcendental Meditation. One who commits > > apostasy apostatises is an apostate. These guys are that here. Many > > religious movements consider it a vice (sin), a corruption of > > the virtue of piety, in the sense that when piety fails apostasy is the > > result. > > > > As a conservative practicing meditator I read their blasphemes here and am > > shocked that they even have privileges to post here. For instance, many > > religious groups and some states punish apostates as appropriate protection > > for the larger group. Apostates may be shunned by the members of their > > former religious group or even subjected to formal or informal punishment. > > This may be the official policy of the religious group or may be the action > > of its members. A Christian church may in certain > > circumstances excommunicate the apostate, while some Islamic scriptures > > (al-Bukhari, Diyat, bab 6) demand the death penalty for apostates. > > > > The death penalty is still applied to apostates by some Muslim states (such > > as Iran), but not in Christianity or Judaism. > > > > Now, of course TM is not a religion nor a cult like those other groups but > > I think these non-meditator apostate guys get off incredibly lite as they > > write and post here. En lieu of a higher level of oversight by the FFL > > owner and his FFL moderators here those of us who are more awake can only > > use the shun key to its best effect before any negative effect might > > intrude. I wish there was a way to better protect the list. > > > > Eternal vigilance is the price of Peace. Be careful, just shun them out > > and certainly don't let them get in the way of a good meditation. > > > > Peace on Earth, > > Buck in FF > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, the permanence of silence during everything else just continues to > > > deepen, sort of a realllllly drawn out version of a sip of excellent > > > cognac or other preferred distilled spirit, the way the alcohol fueled > > > flavor is absorbed first in the mouth and then down the throat and > > > finally to the stomach. It happens gradually yet unmistakably over time, > > > with the only inevitable casualty being our limited identity. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Regarding transient periods of witnessing, vs. permanent realization, > > > > > the difference is just that. As a result of Being not being fully > > > > > integrated, the temporary experience can feel kind of manic, as if > > > > > one is one with the universe, feeling almost giddy, and somewhat > > > > > hyperactive in the body and mind. I have had a few of these > > > > > experiences over the years, and all I can say is the feelings were > > > > > like an expansion of the heart that couldn't sustain itself, and > > > > > dissolved after a few days. > > > > > > > > > > Permanent realization is just that. The mind isn't involved with it. > > > > > In fact our self identity shifts radically from what we have always > > > > > considered to be the 'me', to a universal identity with everything. > > > > > This is also an evolving process that Maharishi described succinctly > > > > > and simply in about 1968. > > > > > > > > > > So, rule of thumb is that if it feels overly blissy and the mind is > > > > > involved in enjoying this experience on the level of the small self, > > > > > and the whole thing feels special, it probably won't last. On the > > > > > other hand, once Being is fully integrated, there is no mania > > > > > associated with the experience, life just continues as before, with > > > > > the only difference being complete liberation from bondage being > > > > > lived moment to moment, and consequently a quiet and satisfied mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting this very personal account Jim. But are you sure you > > > > are not suffering some kind of mental disease as the Turqo suggests ? > > > > :-) :-) > > > > > > > > Anyway your experiences, particularily those regarding before > > > > permanency reminds me of experiences I and my friends on Purusha had > > > > for prolongued periods of time years ago. But I would have described it > > > > as something in the middle of yours; life continued as before in > > > > happiness and it was not "special", yet it would come and go. It will > > > > be interesting to see how many have entered phase two as they have been > > > > now in the Himalayas for quite a few years already. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the experience is as it is inside as outside? > Like Krishna, the challenge was to play with the negativity. One does not > have to become negativity. The practice of techniques such as TM, are to help > make the creative mind clear, therefore play with the negativity! Play, my > friends, play! Keep those chess pieces moving! > or did I mean cheese pieces...dinner time... >
