Buckji - spirituality is never for others always for oneself. If your love for the beloved is so easily threatened by others it's time to examine your love.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > Dear Nablusoss, > > They clearly missed the destination. Evidently Tqb, CDb and these other > negativistic writers here are bound in states of apostasy. For lack of > experience they clearly are in states of formal disaffiliation from or > abandonment or renunciation of any possibility of spiritualized or awakened > experience by a person, particularly persons having any connection to > practicing Transcendental Meditation. One who commits apostasy apostatises is > an apostate. These guys are that here. Many religious movements consider > it a vice (sin), a corruption of the virtue of piety, in the sense that when > piety fails apostasy is the result. > > As a conservative practicing meditator I read their blasphemes here and am > shocked that they even have privileges to post here. For instance, many > religious groups and some states punish apostates as appropriate protection > for the larger group. Apostates may be shunned by the members of their > former religious group or even subjected to formal or informal punishment. > This may be the official policy of the religious group or may be the action > of its members. A Christian church may in certain > circumstances excommunicate the apostate, while some Islamic scriptures > (al-Bukhari, Diyat, bab 6) demand the death penalty for apostates. > > The death penalty is still applied to apostates by some Muslim states (such > as Iran), but not in Christianity or Judaism. > > Now, of course TM is not a religion nor a cult like those other groups but I > think these non-meditator apostate guys get off incredibly lite as they write > and post here. En lieu of a higher level of oversight by the FFL owner and > his FFL moderators here those of us who are more awake can only use the shun > key to its best effect before any negative effect might intrude. I wish > there was a way to better protect the list. > > Eternal vigilance is the price of Peace. Be careful, just shun them out and > certainly don't let them get in the way of a good meditation. > > Peace on Earth, > Buck in FF > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > Yeah, the permanence of silence during everything else just continues to > > deepen, sort of a realllllly drawn out version of a sip of excellent cognac > > or other preferred distilled spirit, the way the alcohol fueled flavor is > > absorbed first in the mouth and then down the throat and finally to the > > stomach. It happens gradually yet unmistakably over time, with the only > > inevitable casualty being our limited identity. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Regarding transient periods of witnessing, vs. permanent realization, > > > > the difference is just that. As a result of Being not being fully > > > > integrated, the temporary experience can feel kind of manic, as if one > > > > is one with the universe, feeling almost giddy, and somewhat > > > > hyperactive in the body and mind. I have had a few of these experiences > > > > over the years, and all I can say is the feelings were like an > > > > expansion of the heart that couldn't sustain itself, and dissolved > > > > after a few days. > > > > > > > > Permanent realization is just that. The mind isn't involved with it. In > > > > fact our self identity shifts radically from what we have always > > > > considered to be the 'me', to a universal identity with everything. > > > > This is also an evolving process that Maharishi described succinctly > > > > and simply in about 1968. > > > > > > > > So, rule of thumb is that if it feels overly blissy and the mind is > > > > involved in enjoying this experience on the level of the small self, > > > > and the whole thing feels special, it probably won't last. On the other > > > > hand, once Being is fully integrated, there is no mania associated with > > > > the experience, life just continues as before, with the only difference > > > > being complete liberation from bondage being lived moment to moment, > > > > and consequently a quiet and satisfied mind. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting this very personal account Jim. But are you sure you > > > are not suffering some kind of mental disease as the Turqo suggests ? :-) > > > :-) > > > > > > Anyway your experiences, particularily those regarding before permanency > > > reminds me of experiences I and my friends on Purusha had for prolongued > > > periods of time years ago. But I would have described it as something in > > > the middle of yours; life continued as before in happiness and it was not > > > "special", yet it would come and go. It will be interesting to see how > > > many have entered phase two as they have been now in the Himalayas for > > > quite a few years already. > > > > > >
