Richard, I doubt Barry will read or respond to your post. But I think Barry was active in the TMO for several years beyond 1972. My recollection is that Lenz/Rama came along around 1977-78 and attracted a number of west coast teachers of TM who at that time were feeling disillusioned by some aspects of the TMO. It was not all that uncommon to begin to have serious doubts and concerns in those years- especially if you were involved enough with the TMO to see the inside scoop on things. A lot of really good, smart people began to drift away. Rules and hierarchies began to form, some not very nice behavior was rather common, there was a mentality that the TMO was there to police it's devoted teacher. It got really odd if you thought for yourself about any of these changes.
Despite this, a lot of really good smart people stayed with MMY, real devotees. Of course Lenz/Rama had to be about as strange as they come from what I've heard! --- In [email protected], "richardwillytexwilliams" <willytex@...> wrote: > > > turquoiseb: > > I cannot pinpoint the exact day or month or year in which > > TMers went officially bat shit crazy (some TM historian > > type here may be able to do that for us), because I'd > > already left before it happened... > > > So, you know nothing about the TMO after 1972, when you got > kicked out, but somehow the TMO went 'bat-shit crazy' because > you went over to work for Fred Lenz. LoL! > > <SNIP> >
