Dear Denise, No problem I appreciate your views and sure - it doesn't work for everyone. But you know what, like you said there's definitely lot to others to choose from.
Pre-awakening in the depths of misery I tried everything I could lay hand on. ( My Guru didn't have the IAM technique then :-)). And one of them was this - this simple technique of watching your incoming breath and then outgoing breath. Incoming - life, creation - outgoing - the end death. It was fun doing the technique because you enter a stillness with the outgoing breath. So good luck !!! Love, Ravi On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ravi, I was actually talking about Buddhism as there is a large body of > information targeting the ignorant masses looking for a different spiritual > practice. It has been dumbed down and I'm not clear that benefit could not > be gained by cherry-picking some of the techniques, regardless of whether one > delves more deeply into the complexities of "Buddhism." > > It's free and seems more above-board in this respect. I disagree that people > don't appreciate things they receive for free and the commitment comes from > inside, in all regards. > > I just keep believing that it doesn't matter so much what tradition is > followed if one's intention and practice serve to meet one's personal needs. > For me, for example, if I just simply sit and breathe for 30 minutes and > focus on my breath, which is the simplest of things to do, I start to calm > down. If that is all I ever manage, it may not get me to an altered state or > "higher" level of consciousness, but it might improve the quality of my life > still. > > I do agree that there is likely more to be gained from more in-depth study > and participation in a spiritual practice of one's choosing. > > I bought an Macbook Pro and paid extra for the hand-holding contract piece, > but I don't find that I feel particularly special, just poorer. > > From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by > Walter Isaacson > > > Hmm..Denise I'm confused - you must be referring to TM while I was talking > about Buddhism. > > As far as I can see, there is value in TM charging money - one people never > appreciate anything they receive for free, secondly they put more effort > since they have paid it and thirdly it makes them feel special, much like > buying an Apple product which is very helpful in initial stages. > > > On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> <snip> >> >> "Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >> have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination...." >> >> I don't see why it has to be so complicated or why one has to buy in >> fully....I think there may be value in practicing principles and techniques >> that can be spoon-fed to the masses...like Yogurt-lite. >> >> From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> >> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs >> by Walter Isaacson >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, "seventhray1" <steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I understand what you are saying. I'll be honest. I skim so lightly >>> whatever Nabby says, that I really can't say what Tart was responding to. >>> But I liked Tart's response. Evidently he was choosing not to respond >>> directly to something Nabby said, and chose to go off on his own tangent. >>> One thing to point out. This was something the great Master, MMY used to >>> do constantly. It was one of his defining characteristics. >>> Would you care to comment on Tart's assertion that duality it ultimately a >>> mirage, and that the true reality is one of unity? >> >> You know I'm not the one to have dry intellectual discussions. Words don't >> mean anything but yes its unity and Unity doesn't exclude duality. In fact >> one in Unity is engaged with duality with much more fervor and intensity >> than one who has not, hence Lord Krishna is treated as a purna avatar( a >> complete or a perfect manifestation of Unity). >> >> Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >> have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination, say someone >> like Judy. Buddhism, unfortunately has become a great refuge of all the >> mentally masturbating, Western intellectuals because it gives a great >> satisfaction to the ego and nothing but pseudo spirituality. >> >> God I'm itching to talk, I'm really going to go after these idiots..:-) >>> Or does he need follow some dialogue protocal before we can comment on that? >> >> Sure there is no protocol but like Judy said he is being totally obnoxious, >> he should start a separate thread and may be add a paragraph referencing his >> opinions on people calling Vaj a liar. >> >> >> >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > Steve, >>> > >>> > Judy is spot on - say you are an enlightened man and are confronting your >>> > child for lying and in walks a retarded tartbrain who says - hey you >>> > enlightened man, you shouldn't be confronting your child for lying >>> > because it's all love bliss, I bet you will smack tartbrain so hard that >>> > his intellectually aroused head will start fitting in his hat for a few >>> > days at least. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:21 PM, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@... wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> >>> > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Vaj belives that if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes >>> > > > > > a truth. Bless his "Buddhist" heart. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > That is a wonderful insight. We repeat the lie of separation >>> > > > > over and over again, over so many years. One day we wake up >>> > > > > laughing, no longer seeing the lie. The lie is the pathway to >>> > > > > truth, life is the deepest teacher. We repeatedly bang our >>> > > > > head against the wall, but that cannot last. The wall banging >>> > > > > comes to a stop. The lie cannot survive, it just takes some >>> > > > > intense living of the lie for it to shrivel naturally from >>> > > > > its own lack of foundation. >>> > > > >>> > > > Non sequitur and whopping category error. >>> > > > >>> > > > FAIL. >>> > > > >>> > > Wow, what a different take. I found Tart's statement to be the best of >>> > > the week. It describes the path from ignorance to realization. The lie >>> > > of seperation, the truth of unity. The lotus came up from the mud, so >>> > > to speak. I suppose Vaj will either back up his statement or choose to >>> > > ignore the direct contradictory testimony. But I'll take Tart's tagent. >>> > > Hey, that'd be a good name for a blog. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> >> > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in this topic (0) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 2 New Photos 3 > Visit Your Group > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > MARKETPLACE
