Thank you Ravi...your post to Obba, btw, has strains of a Rumi poem. It's quite beautiful. I'm sure I'm over my limit, or within a post or two, so I am going to stay away and practice sitting next week. I'm wiped out by all my intensity over the last few days...although I enjoyed playing in the playground.
________________________________ From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson Dear Denise, No problem I appreciate your views and sure - it doesn't work for everyone. But you know what, like you said there's definitely lot to others to choose from. Pre-awakening in the depths of misery I tried everything I could lay hand on. ( My Guru didn't have the IAM technique then :-)). And one of them was this - this simple technique of watching your incoming breath and then outgoing breath. Incoming - life, creation - outgoing - the end death. It was fun doing the technique because you enter a stillness with the outgoing breath. So good luck !!! Love, Ravi On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Ravi, I was actually talking about Buddhism as there is a large body of >information targeting the ignorant masses looking for a different spiritual >practice. It has been dumbed down and I'm not clear that benefit could not be >gained by cherry-picking some of the techniques, regardless of whether one >delves more deeply into the complexities of "Buddhism." > > >It's free and seems more above-board in this respect. I disagree that people >don't appreciate things they receive for free and the commitment comes from >inside, in all regards. > > >I just keep believing that it doesn't matter so much what tradition is >followed if one's intention and practice serve to meet one's personal needs. >For me, for example, if I just simply sit and breathe for 30 minutes and focus >on my breath, which is the simplest of things to do, I start to calm down. If >that is all I ever manage, it may not get me to an altered state or "higher" >level of consciousness, but it might improve the quality of my life still. > > >I do agree that there is likely more to be gained from more in-depth study and >participation in a spiritual practice of one's choosing. > > >I bought an Macbook Pro and paid extra for the hand-holding contract piece, >but I don't find that I feel particularly special, just poorer. > > > >________________________________ >From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:38 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by >Walter Isaacson > > > >Hmm..Denise I'm confused - you must be referring to TM while I was talking >about Buddhism. > > >As far as I can see, there is value in TM charging money - one people never >appreciate anything they receive for free, secondly they put more effort since >they have paid it and thirdly it makes them feel special, much like buying an >Apple product which is very helpful in initial stages. > > > >On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >><snip> >> >> >>"Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >>have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination...." >> >> >> >>I don't see why it has to be so complicated or why one has to buy in >>fully....I think there may be value in practicing principles and techniques >>that can be spoon-fed to the masses...like Yogurt-lite. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 PM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by >>Walter Isaacson >> >> >> >>On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, "seventhray1" <steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >>>I understand what you are saying. I'll be honest. I skim so lightly >>>whatever Nabby says, that I really can't say what Tart was responding to. >>>But I liked Tart's response. Evidently he was choosing not to respond >>>directly to something Nabby said, and chose to go off on his own tangent. >>>One thing to point out. This was something the great Master, MMY used to do >>>constantly. It was one of his defining characteristics. >>>Would you care to comment on Tart's assertion that duality it ultimately a >>>mirage, and that the true reality is one of unity? >> >>You know I'm not the one to have dry intellectual discussions. Words don't >>mean anything but yes its unity and Unity doesn't exclude duality. In fact >>one in Unity is engaged with duality with much more fervor and intensity than >>one who has not, hence Lord Krishna is treated as a purna avatar( a complete >>or a perfect manifestation of Unity). >> >> >>Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >>have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination, say someone >>like Judy. Buddhism, unfortunately has become a great refuge of all the >>mentally masturbating, Western intellectuals because it gives a great >>satisfaction to the ego and nothing but pseudo spirituality. >> >> >>God I'm itching to talk, I'm really going to go after these idiots..:-) >> >>Or does he need follow some dialogue protocal before we can comment on that? >> >> >>Sure there is no protocol but like Judy said he is being totally obnoxious, >>he should start a separate thread and may be add a paragraph referencing his >>opinions on people calling Vaj a liar. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Steve, >>>> >>>> Judy is spot on - say you are an enlightened man and are confronting your >>>> child for lying and in walks a retarded tartbrain who says - hey you >>>> enlightened man, you shouldn't be confronting your child for lying because >>>> it's all love bliss, I bet you will smack tartbrain so hard that his >>>> intellectually aroused head will start fitting in his hat for a few days >>>> at least. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:21 PM, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@... wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > Vaj belives that if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes >>>> > > > > a truth. Bless his "Buddhist" heart. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > That is a wonderful insight. We repeat the lie of separation >>>> > > > over and over again, over so many years. One day we wake up >>>> > > > laughing, no longer seeing the lie. The lie is the pathway to >>>> > > > truth, life is the deepest teacher. We repeatedly bang our >>>> > > > head against the wall, but that cannot last. The wall banging >>>> > > > comes to a stop. The lie cannot survive, it just takes some >>>> > > > intense living of the lie for it to shrivel naturally from >>>> > > > its own lack of foundation. >>>> > > >>>> > > Non sequitur and whopping category error. >>>> > > >>>> > > FAIL. >>>> > > >>>> > Wow, what a different take. I found Tart's statement to be the best of >>>> > the week. It describes the path from ignorance to realization. The lie >>>> > of seperation, the truth of unity. The lotus came up from the mud, so to >>>> > speak. I suppose Vaj will either back up his statement or choose to >>>> > ignore the direct contradictory testimony. But I'll take Tart's tagent. >>>> > Hey, that'd be a good name for a blog. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic >Messages in this topic (0) >MARKETPLACE
