No worries I did notice you on the top of the Post Count, chatty Kathy huh..LOL..my response to Obba was in essence my story of what happened to me :-)
On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thank you Ravi...your post to Obba, btw, has strains of a Rumi poem. It's > quite beautiful. I'm sure I'm over my limit, or within a post or two, so I > am going to stay away and practice sitting next week. I'm wiped out by all > my intensity over the last few days...although I enjoyed playing in the > playground. > > From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:05 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by > Walter Isaacson > > > Dear Denise, > > No problem I appreciate your views and sure - it doesn't work for everyone. > But you know what, like you said there's definitely lot to others to choose > from. > > Pre-awakening in the depths of misery I tried everything I could lay hand on. > ( My Guru didn't have the IAM technique then :-)). > > And one of them was this - this simple technique of watching your incoming > breath and then outgoing breath. Incoming - life, creation - outgoing - the > end death. It was fun doing the technique because you enter a stillness with > the outgoing breath. > > So good luck !!! > > Love, > Ravi > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> Ravi, I was actually talking about Buddhism as there is a large body of >> information targeting the ignorant masses looking for a different spiritual >> practice. It has been dumbed down and I'm not clear that benefit could not >> be gained by cherry-picking some of the techniques, regardless of whether >> one delves more deeply into the complexities of "Buddhism." >> >> It's free and seems more above-board in this respect. I disagree that >> people don't appreciate things they receive for free and the commitment >> comes from inside, in all regards. >> >> I just keep believing that it doesn't matter so much what tradition is >> followed if one's intention and practice serve to meet one's personal needs. >> For me, for example, if I just simply sit and breathe for 30 minutes and >> focus on my breath, which is the simplest of things to do, I start to calm >> down. If that is all I ever manage, it may not get me to an altered state >> or "higher" level of consciousness, but it might improve the quality of my >> life still. >> >> I do agree that there is likely more to be gained from more in-depth study >> and participation in a spiritual practice of one's choosing. >> >> I bought an Macbook Pro and paid extra for the hand-holding contract piece, >> but I don't find that I feel particularly special, just poorer. >> >> From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> >> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs >> by Walter Isaacson >> >> >> Hmm..Denise I'm confused - you must be referring to TM while I was talking >> about Buddhism. >> >> As far as I can see, there is value in TM charging money - one people never >> appreciate anything they receive for free, secondly they put more effort >> since they have paid it and thirdly it makes them feel special, much like >> buying an Apple product which is very helpful in initial stages. >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> "Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >>> have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination...." >>> >>> I don't see why it has to be so complicated or why one has to buy in >>> fully....I think there may be value in practicing principles and techniques >>> that can be spoon-fed to the masses...like Yogurt-lite. >>> >>> From: Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> >>> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs >>> by Walter Isaacson >>> >>> >>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, "seventhray1" <steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I understand what you are saying. I'll be honest. I skim so lightly >>>> whatever Nabby says, that I really can't say what Tart was responding to. >>>> But I liked Tart's response. Evidently he was choosing not to respond >>>> directly to something Nabby said, and chose to go off on his own tangent. >>>> One thing to point out. This was something the great Master, MMY used to >>>> do constantly. It was one of his defining characteristics. >>>> Would you care to comment on Tart's assertion that duality it ultimately a >>>> mirage, and that the true reality is one of unity? >>> >>> You know I'm not the one to have dry intellectual discussions. Words don't >>> mean anything but yes its unity and Unity doesn't exclude duality. In fact >>> one in Unity is engaged with duality with much more fervor and intensity >>> than one who has not, hence Lord Krishna is treated as a purna avatar( a >>> complete or a perfect manifestation of Unity). >>> >>> Buddhism is a great but arduous path, not for everyone, only for a few who >>> have the great intellect combined with proper discrimination, say someone >>> like Judy. Buddhism, unfortunately has become a great refuge of all the >>> mentally masturbating, Western intellectuals because it gives a great >>> satisfaction to the ego and nothing but pseudo spirituality. >>> >>> God I'm itching to talk, I'm really going to go after these idiots..:-) >>>> Or does he need follow some dialogue protocal before we can comment on >>>> that? >>> >>> Sure there is no protocol but like Judy said he is being totally obnoxious, >>> he should start a separate thread and may be add a paragraph referencing >>> his opinions on people calling Vaj a liar. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Steve, >>>> > >>>> > Judy is spot on - say you are an enlightened man and are confronting >>>> > your child for lying and in walks a retarded tartbrain who says - hey >>>> > you enlightened man, you shouldn't be confronting your child for lying >>>> > because it's all love bliss, I bet you will smack tartbrain so hard that >>>> > his intellectually aroused head will start fitting in his hat for a few >>>> > days at least. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:21 PM, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@... wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> >>>> > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Vaj belives that if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes >>>> > > > > > a truth. Bless his "Buddhist" heart. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > That is a wonderful insight. We repeat the lie of separation >>>> > > > > over and over again, over so many years. One day we wake up >>>> > > > > laughing, no longer seeing the lie. The lie is the pathway to >>>> > > > > truth, life is the deepest teacher. We repeatedly bang our >>>> > > > > head against the wall, but that cannot last. The wall banging >>>> > > > > comes to a stop. The lie cannot survive, it just takes some >>>> > > > > intense living of the lie for it to shrivel naturally from >>>> > > > > its own lack of foundation. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Non sequitur and whopping category error. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > FAIL. >>>> > > > >>>> > > Wow, what a different take. I found Tart's statement to be the best of >>>> > > the week. It describes the path from ignorance to realization. The lie >>>> > > of seperation, the truth of unity. The lotus came up from the mud, so >>>> > > to speak. I suppose Vaj will either back up his statement or choose to >>>> > > ignore the direct contradictory testimony. But I'll take Tart's >>>> > > tagent. Hey, that'd be a good name for a blog. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic >> Messages in this topic (
