--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the '70s I remember MMY saying on a tape (in > > > reference to > > > > setting up TM): "I could have made it a religion"...well, > > > somewhere > > > > along the way -- somewhere in between 1975 and today -- he DID > > > make > > > > it a religion...and I'm not referring to TM but to the TMO. > > > Anyone > > > > > > One of the most emotional speeches I heard while I was at MIU, > > back > > > around the time of the Court Case; where TM was being taught in > > > several New Jersey schools with great success, and some Christian > > > Religious group from California, protested that you can't teach > TM > > > in Public Schools, because it's a religion; > > > The ultimately got the Puja, translated and proclaimed it to be a > > > religion, in Court, in Philadelphia Superior Fed. Court; and it > > was > > > decided not to pursue the matter any further. > > > Anyway, Jerry Jarvis, made a very angry speech, saying how stupid > > > were the "powers that be" and more or less said that they had > > > condemned the school system to failure, in the United States, > > which > > > we can see has been fairly accurate. > > > At that time, I could sense the attitude of the movement shifting > > > toward the stance that it has now; > > > Instead of working with the established system, the movement > > regards > > > the established system, whether it be educational, spiritual, > > > political, or economic as basically retarded. > > > In this vain, the attitude is now, that the movement has > > structured > > > it's own reality, in a world that is quite insane, in order to > > stand > > > out. > > > Let's face it, in an enlightened world, who cares how strange the > > > people in the movement seem to be, > > > If they want to fly in the dome 24 hours a day, > > > I say: "Go for It!" > > > > > > I was also at MIU as a student at that time. I remember looking at > > the curriculum book that the TMO had set up for the New Jersey High > > School students. Very beautiful book with beautiful photographs of > > sunsets etc. to demonstrate the power of C.I. etc. > > > > The only problem was that you could replace the word "absolute" > > that the Movement used in the book with the word "God" and it would > > have meant exactly the same thing...so if the court didn't catch > > the TMO on the puja they would have caught them on the book which > > was set up in such a way that it DID violate the separation of > > church and state. > > Yes and no. > > The appeals court judge who wrote a long concurring > opinion, incidentally, discussed exactly this point. > It's very interesting reading; it's been posted to > alt.m.t a couple of times. If anybody wants to read > it, let me know and I'll dig up the URLs. > > But you could be a hard-core atheist, in the sense of > rejecting the forms of God proclaimed by the religions, > and still find the idea of the Absolute entirely > compatible with your beliefs. You can teach > metaphysics, in other words, without actually > teaching religion.
What I found objectionable in the high school book was the way that the absolute's attributes were declared as fact. If they had only treated it like a scientific theory that had YET been proven instead of as fact, then I think it would have passed muster. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
