As a former bar owner in California I'm familiar with both the laws re alcohol sales and the relentless effort of underaged persons to circumvent those laws, oftentimes with the assistance of adults. The scenario that Mr. Chivukula described and Curtis commented upon is not only a plausible one, but, as Curtis pointed out, a pretty common one, strict laws and harsh penalties notwithstanding. Whether the specific event described was true or a lie no one here knows.
I assume that children pretty much do all the things (or type of things) that their parents did in their youth, and then some, even if they don't tell their parents about it. *** --- In [email protected], "futur.musik" <futur.musik@...> wrote: > > Yep, all true. My daughter used to go to clubs in SF before she could drink > and there was no way she would be able to get a beer or anything else, except > soft drinks and water. > > --- In [email protected], obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > If you lived in San Francisco and knew the club Ravi was referring to, has > > tight restrictions to get into the club in the first place. Second, if > > there were "minors," allowed in, they do not have the stamps on their hands > > like the legal requirement age does. To hand over a shot in a club like > > that, would get one kicked out, thrown out and even arrested by the > > management if a legal aged person is caught giving a minor alcohol. The > > city is very strict on ordinances, the county and state levels, the > > management at that venue, especially in particular follows the rules. > > Ravi was pulling your legs and they ain't very long to pull, if you know > > what I mean. > > Ravi is more aware of what he writes than you think. > > > > You dudes are attempting to put his hotdog on a slicer. You are worse that > > Mrs. Bobbitt. Love and peace and we can all share, alright? ; ) > > > > O' lord of the flies, do you see the shit growing on here.... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "marekreavis" <reavismarek@> wrote: > > > > > > An 18-year old in California is not a minor, but is prohibited from > > > consuming alcohol. Furnishing alcohol to someone under the age of 21 is a > > > violation of Business & Professions Vode section 25658, a misdemeanor > > > offense punishable by no more than one year in the county jail and a fine. > > > > > > *** > > > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The one you seem unfamiliar with, the real one. We protect our > > > > > minors on this side of the ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a 19 year old woman a minor ? > > > > Weird place your California... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor" California > > > > > > > > > > Penal Code 272 PC > > > > > > > > > > "Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a common crime for > > > > > which thousands of people in California get prosecuted every year. > > > > > > > > > > The most classic scenario is an adult who gets caught supplying > > > > > alcohol or drugs to a teenager. But as the article below explains, > > > > > Penal Code 272 PC is actually much broader than most people realize. > > > > > Parents and strangers alike can get prosecuted for any behavior that > > > > > tends to lead a minor down a path towards criminality, truancy from > > > > > school, or becoming a dependant of the juvenile court." > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure the arrest would go smoothly and not result in any > > > > > additional charges for wacky erratic behavior and that his employer > > > > > and contentious ex would be sympathetic about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > Oh yeah, and lets not forget this wasn't wine with dinner, this was > > > > > tequila shots, so if she careens into a family of four on her way > > > > > home, or is physically harmed in any way as a result of his actions, > > > > > it all gets promoted to a felony. > > > > > > > > > > But don't worry Nabbie, he was just kidding and as Judy pointed out, > > > > > I tricked him into saying all this stuff in that way only she and > > > > > Robin can detect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent push back Curtis. I feel much better. That type of > > > > > > > spin put > > > > > > > on by Judy and some others cannot be allowed to go uncontested. I > > > > > > > simply > > > > > > > cannot get dialed in to the justification that Judy (in > > > > > > > particular) and > > > > > > > others feel they need to provide to Ravi. I am in total > > > > > > > agreement with > > > > > > > your analysis. Of course Ravi interacted with that 19 year old > > > > > > > as he > > > > > > > described. And you know what, who cares. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis got all excited because Ravi gave a drink to this girl of > > > > > > 19, claiming she is underaged. In my world she is a woman. What > > > > > > kind of weird world is he living in ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
