Merudanda, thank you for sending this. How funny that Bruch composed Kol Nidrei. I had no idea.
________________________________ From: merudanda <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts (Curtis) dear Emily there is no secret everybody know you are a gem here at the Fairy Field Life(forever) always love your post and the genuine feeling behind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgaICZS79Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwINCeAr38&feature=related just want you to know --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote: > > Curtis, I googled your name just now...just your name...and nothing came up > in the top 10 but the music that you play and the work that you do. > > Having said that, I watched the scene play out last weekend. I saw you post > statements indicating you trying to reconcile the concepts of internet > freedom and freedom of expression with your personal feelings of being > targeted with repeat statements on FFL that contained words that you felt > could harm you professionally and personally. I watched you decide to stand > up "by yourself" and not buy in to the larger call of individual posters for > a "sin resolution," or stricter rules, or forward and promote an FFL descent > into a mob mentality. I read you at face value and decided not to describe > your overall strategy as "devious" or "deceptive" or the like - not in this > case, at least. I noted your post of the SNL skit to defuse the tension with > humor. I read the statement you came up with in defense of yourself. I read > your post after Ravi was dismissed. I read Robin's post to Ravi and Ravi's > response, which was an almost perfect reflection of > Robin's post, IMO. > > Without assigning intent to Ravi's behavior or trying to deduce his mental > state and without condemning him or you, I understand you deciding to protect > and stand up for yourself ( and in the context of the overall situation and > given its length). We all have that right and no one should be afraid to > state their reality, regardless of what others think or how it is > interpreted. That's one of the great things about FFL - it challenges one's > reality and one's belief system (at least it does mine) and that process > can't occur if one is afraid to post or is in defense mode all the time. My > personal feeling is that Ravi could have made all of his points to you, even > repeatedly, by altering his approach only minimally and he would still be > here. He chose not to - stating more than once that he was "in complete > control" and also "that he couldn't help it." The reality is likely in the > middle somewhere, but in the end, regardless of whether in person he is > a loving and kind and humble human being, his persona and behavior here > towards you crossed a line you finally felt you had to hold. I understand > that kind of decision and there are no real winners. As compared to the world > at large, the free speech allowed and encouraged here is an enormous gift to > its participants and FFL celebrates this philosophy daily. I am glad that > you didn't unsubscribe. > > For those who assume that I have "switched sides" - I was never on a "side." > I recognize and appreciate all that Ravi did for me and I don't think any > less of him. This doesn't mean that I can't also feel for the position that > Curtis and others were in, based on his internet behavior towards them. It > doesn't mean that he didn't have some great insights and push all of us to > explore our humanness and the pitfalls of hypocritical behavior and > dishonesty and judgment or concepts of love and pain, etc. > > Perry Como singing Kol Nidre - yes, it's a little early for Yom Kippur / the > Day of Atonement, but I like the concept in the larger context of > self-reflection (even though I am not Jewish) and it is a beautiful song sung > by a beautiful voice. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6i6SobW6M > > > > ________________________________ > From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:54 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: > > > > Excuse me, I would like to make a comment. : ) > > Blaming Ravi by saying he was bringing your posts to the Google top list by > > his tech savy talents using your name and the "P," word is absolutely > > preposterous. As if his whole purpose was to harm you. > > Then we differ in our opinion about the actions of a tech professional that > ended in the factual statement I made. > > > He was playing with you, rather as the Zebra put it like a child, but that > > is all he was doing. I know he had no intentional malice, the legal term. > > If you feel this is what he did, why don't you write to google? All of > > their search results are data mined. I know this too. > > Do me a favor. Don't ever "play" with me. We have different standards of > fun. So was Barry playing with you or was he being sadistic as charged? That > might help me clarify your standards better. I'll CC the president on in my > Google letter and I'm sure it will get cleared up immediately. They have a > lot of time to spend on such requests and take them all seriously with all > the research back up needed to sort out these issues for free. (now who is > playing?)(on re-read perhaps I had slid into dickish territory.) > > > If I wrote the word, "p<snip>," here, this too, would come up in a search. > > This is for educational purposes only and not meant to bring "harm," to > > this man who refers to himself as a user name c<snip> or to the other > > person who refers to the man mentioned in this post. > > Now you are being a bit of an asshole. Did you really have to pair my name > with that word in the same paragraph to make your point? If you repeat this > association as many times as he did, then we have a problem. > > > > > If and when I have the need, if I could hire a software engineer, I would > > hire R <snip> and have complete trust in him. > > In fact, I already put him in touch with some really awesome folks in the > > tech/creative fields who do a little more than work at a local level, let's > > say at the world level to be honest. > > There is not a worry to how Ravi functions in his professional career, and > > this branding the letter A, by some on this board, will not stop me from > > giving Ravi's name to my peep's in an honorable way. > > In fact, because of all this crapola, I felt it my duty to help Ravi. > > OK so we differ in our perspective on the guy and whether or not the term > "crappola" covers it accurately. The dude had more chances here than any > other poster I have seen blow through here. This is all on him IMO. > > > > > A note to Ravi: > > Ravi, you have a great time next month, they are awesome people. > > "Enjoy the show, too." > > > > > > Curtis, I am sure you are a nice man too. Please do not take this as trying > > to slam you.> > > I don't. You are sticking up for what's his name, your perfect right. I > stuck up for him more than once here before he went off the rails. I've seen > his charming hapless side. I've also seen another side that I hope to never > see again. > > < I enjoy reading your posts. You are awesome too and maybe one day I will > meet you at one of the schools in your area with another project that helps > support music programs at schools.> > > Very nice of you to say. Music programs are really valuable so good luck > with your efforts in that area. > > > > > Love, > > Obbajeeba > > Where have I seen that sign off before... > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > I thought Buck was doing his usual schtick on this post. If it was > > > serious then I have no problem with a request from him to use what I > > > thought was a schtick name that he uses when putting us on. If it is an > > > attempt to put distance between himself and his real name a request is > > > all that is needed for me. > > > > > > The reason I always used the other one was because I considered that > > > connected to the guy I used to have friendly conversations with here as > > > his genuine self. The schtick routine has given me some difficulty > > > understanding where he is coming from. He was one of the people who > > > stuck up for limits on abuse from you know who, which I really > > > appreciate. So if that is what you want Buck, that is your name from now > > > on. > > > > > > Speaking of that matter...I just reached the top 10 in Google for my name > > > and the P word this week. First search page. As soon as he realized he > > > had a hot button that could actually hurt me, he used his tech savvy to > > > flood the search engines pairing my name with this word even in posts > > > that I had nothing to do with. The tip off was his monitoring of results > > > on youtube. He knew exactly what he was doing. > > > > > > I wont list all the people who stuck up for me, but you all know who you > > > are and I really appreciate your kindness. The day he left was going to > > > be my last day here. Now the damage is done and I can only hope it will > > > not have its intended malicious effect. I am a sadder but wiser poster > > > here having been through that. > > > > > > Word to the wise: People can say almost anything here about you with > > > little lasting consequences. But when someone is repeating a phrase, > > > again and again, it can hurt you and you need to act fast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wasn't aware of it. Let me know if it happens again. Has it been > > > > > > > deleted? Would you like me to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Moderator, Alex Jong-il, dealt deftly with that situation, and > > > > > > order was restored in the Universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > FFL Owner and List Moderators, > > > > > Seeking an equal justice under the FFL guidelines > > > > > please unsubscribe Turqb, Curtis and Wayback > > > > > from FFL > > > > > for repeatedly assertin and using my real handle on this list > > > > > in addressing replies to my posting here. > > > > > You and me know how dangerous this can be > > > > > in real life here. > > > > > Please respect my anonymity and unsubscribe > > > > > these perps. In light of Ravi's final departure, > > > > > this would equally fair. > > > > > It is really low what they do. > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > > It's Buck to you, damit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Buck, when it comes to anonymity, I'm a traditionalist. As far as I'm > > > > concerned, if you have used your real name here in the past, you are > > > > not anonymous, end of story. IMO, Rick opened up a whole can of stupid > > > > when he decided that Vaj could have his anonymity "restored", even > > > > though he has posted here in the past under his real name. > > > > Non-anonymous people who decide they want to be regarded as anonymous > > > > need to take it up with Rick, because that is ridiculous dumbassery > > > > that I will have no part of. > > > > > > > > With respect to shukra69, although he didn't use his real name on FFL, > > > > he did attach his real name to that moniker on another site; strictly > > > > speaking, that means he was never anonymous to begin with. But, I have > > > > a lot more sympathy for him than I do for someone who wants his > > > > anonymity "restored" after openly posting here with his real name. > > > > > > > > To be truly anonymous, you need to do what Nabby does: use a moniker > > > > that he has in absolutely no way publicly linked with his real name. > > > > IMO, unless you do that, you have no reasonable expectation to be > > > > regarded as anonymous. > > > > > > > > > >
