--- In [email protected], Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> If you feel inspired at any point, post some blues or bluesy / jazzy 
> pieces...only the enlightened ones of course :)


This is as enlightened as it gets.  Thanks for asking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6jjNRUqPxg&feature=related





> 
> Signed - MusicbeggarsRus
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:34 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts (Curtis)
>  
> 
>   
> Hi Emily,
> 
> Thanks for such a sincere post.  I appreciate it.  What he achieved was to 
> link the two words only. My single name is fine.  Given his interest in me 
> offline, which I have not detailed, it was heading nowhere good.  But I am 
> optimistic that I dodged a bullet and am gunna be just fine.  It was a 
> wake-up call for me though. I'll never let things go that far again here. 
> 
> It was fortunate for me that he simultaneously decided to go after someone 
> else's real name that day.  That was what tipped the scale or we would not be 
> having this chat right now.
> 
> I don't share your view of his value or insights but if you got something 
> good from him, more power to you.  I suspect without all the enlightenment 
> story he wouldn't have lasted so long.  I can't see an atheist coming on this 
> board and communicating with people that way and getting away with it.
> 
> There was no devious strategy, I was tying to survive it day by day and was 
> learning as I went along. Ultimately he was just some dude with a computer 
> who wished me ill.  And fortunately for me he shot himself in the foot.  I 
> really enjoy not seeing F and MF bombs lobbed my way each morning when I 
> check in. It seems much more sane.
> 
> I appreciate what you are saying about not feeling limited to any "side".  I 
> couldn't agree more. I appreciate the feeling of your post.
> 
> My dad traded Christmas cards with Perry Como till he died.  It was one of 
> those celebrity kindnesses that he did off of some casual contact, but it 
> made my dad feel very special.  Thanks for posting that.
> 
> --- In [email protected], Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis, I googled your name just now...just your name...and nothing came up 
> > in the top 10 but the music that you play and the work that you do.  
> > 
> > Having said that, I watched the scene play out last weekend.  I saw you 
> > post statements indicating you trying to reconcile the concepts of internet 
> > freedom and freedom of expression with your personal feelings of being 
> > targeted with repeat statements on FFL that contained words that you felt 
> > could harm you professionally and personally.  I watched you decide to 
> > stand up "by yourself" and not buy in to the larger call of individual 
> > posters for a "sin resolution," or stricter rules, or forward and promote 
> > an FFL descent into a mob mentality. I read you at face value and decided 
> > not to describe your overall strategy as "devious" or "deceptive" or the 
> > like - not in this case, at least.  I noted your post of the SNL skit to 
> > defuse the tension with humor.  I read the statement you came up with in 
> > defense of yourself.  I read your post after Ravi was dismissed.  I 
> > read Robin's post to Ravi and Ravi's response, which was an almost perfect
>  reflection of
> >  Robin's post, IMO.
> > 
> > Without assigning intent to Ravi's behavior or trying to deduce his mental 
> > state and without condemning him or you, I understand you deciding to 
> > protect and stand up for yourself ( and in the context of the overall 
> > situation and given its length).  We all have that right and no one 
> > should be afraid to state their reality, regardless of what others think or 
> > how it is interpreted.  That's one of the great things about FFL - it 
> > challenges one's reality and one's belief system (at least it does mine) 
> > and that process can't occur if one is afraid to post or is in defense mode 
> > all the time.  My personal feeling is that Ravi could have made all of 
> > his points to you, even repeatedly, by altering his approach only minimally 
> > and he would still be here. He chose not to - stating more than once that 
> > he was "in complete control" and also "that he couldn't help it." The 
> > reality is likely in the middle somewhere, but in the end, regardless of 
> > whether in
>  person he is
> >  a loving and kind and humble human being, his persona and behavior here 
> > towards you crossed a line you finally felt you had to hold.  I 
> > understand that kind of decision and there are no real winners. As 
> > compared to the world at large, the free speech allowed and encouraged here 
> > is an enormous gift to its participants and FFL celebrates this philosophy 
> > daily.  I am glad that you didn't unsubscribe.  
> > 
> > For those who assume that I have "switched sides" - I was never on a 
> > "side."  I recognize and appreciate all that Ravi did for me and I don't 
> > think any less of him. This doesn't mean that I can't also feel for the 
> > position that Curtis and others were in, based on his internet behavior 
> > towards them.  It doesn't mean that he didn't have some great insights 
> > and push all of us to explore our humanness and the pitfalls of 
> > hypocritical behavior and dishonesty and judgment or concepts of love and 
> > pain, etc.
> > 
> > Perry Como singing Kol Nidre - yes, it's a little early for Yom Kippur / 
> > the Day of Atonement, but I like the concept in the larger context of 
> > self-reflection (even though I am not Jewish) and it is a beautiful song 
> > sung by a beautiful voice.  
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6i6SobW6M
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:54 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > -- In [email protected], obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Excuse me, I would like to make a comment. : )
> > > Blaming Ravi by saying he was bringing your posts to the Google top list 
> > > by his tech savy talents using your name and the "P," word is absolutely 
> > > preposterous. As if his whole purpose was to harm you.
> > 
> > Then we differ in our opinion about the actions of a tech professional that 
> > ended in the factual statement I made.
> > 
> > > He was playing with you, rather as the Zebra put it like a child, but 
> > > that is all he was doing.  I know he had no intentional malice, the legal 
> > > term.  If you feel this is what he did, why don't you write to google?  
> > > All of their search results are data mined. I know this too. 
> > 
> > Do me a favor.  Don't ever "play" with me.  We have different standards of 
> > fun. So was Barry playing with you or was he being sadistic as charged?  
> > That might help me clarify your standards better.  I'll CC the president on 
> > in my Google letter and I'm sure it will get cleared up immediately. They 
> > have a lot of time to spend on such requests and take them all seriously 
> > with all the research back up needed to sort out these issues for free. 
> > (now who is playing?)(on re-read perhaps I had slid into dickish territory.)
> > 
> > > If I wrote the word, "p<snip>," here, this too, would come up in a 
> > > search. This is for educational purposes only and not meant to bring 
> > > "harm," to this man who refers to himself as a user name c<snip> or to 
> > > the other person who refers to the man mentioned in this post.
> > 
> > Now you are being a bit of an asshole.  Did you really have to pair my name 
> > with that word in the same paragraph to make your point?  If you repeat 
> > this association as many times as he did, then we have a problem.
> > 
> > > 
> > > If and when I have the need, if I could hire a software engineer, I would 
> > > hire R <snip> and have complete trust in him.
> > > In fact, I already put him in touch with some really awesome folks in the 
> > > tech/creative fields who do a little more than work at a local level, 
> > > let's say at the world level to be honest. 
> > >  There is not a worry to how Ravi functions in his professional career, 
> > > and this branding the letter A, by some on this board, will not stop me 
> > > from giving Ravi's name to my peep's in an honorable way.
> > > In fact, because of all this crapola, I felt it my duty to help Ravi.
> > 
> > OK so we differ in our perspective on the guy and whether or not the term 
> > "crappola" covers it accurately.  The dude had more chances here than any 
> > other poster I have seen blow through here.  This is all on him IMO.
> > 
> > > 
> > > A note to Ravi: 
> > > Ravi, you have a great time next month, they are awesome people.
> > > "Enjoy the show, too."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Curtis, I am sure you are a nice man too. Please do not take this as 
> > > trying to slam you.>
> > 
> > I don't.  You are sticking up for what's his name, your perfect right.  I 
> > stuck up for him more than once here before he went off the rails.  I've 
> > seen his charming hapless side. I've also seen another side that I hope to 
> > never see again.
> > 
> > < I enjoy reading your posts. You are awesome too and maybe one day I will 
> > meet you at one of the schools in your area with another project that helps 
> > support music programs at schools.>
> > 
> > Very nice of you to say.  Music programs are really valuable so good luck 
> > with your efforts in that area.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Love,
> > > Obbajeeba
> > 
> > Where have I seen that sign off before...
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I thought Buck was doing his usual schtick on this post.  If it was 
> > > > serious then I have no problem with a request from him to use what I 
> > > > thought was a schtick name that he uses when putting us on.  If it is 
> > > > an attempt to put distance between himself and his real name a request 
> > > > is all that is needed for me.
> > > > 
> > > > The reason I always used the other one was because I considered that 
> > > > connected to the guy I used to have friendly conversations with here as 
> > > > his genuine self.  The schtick routine has given me some difficulty 
> > > > understanding where he is coming from.  He was one of the people who 
> > > > stuck up for limits on abuse from you know who, which I really 
> > > > appreciate. So if that is what you want Buck, that is your name from 
> > > > now on.
> > > > 
> > > > Speaking of that matter...I just reached the top 10 in Google for my 
> > > > name and the P word this week.  First search page.  As soon as he 
> > > > realized he had a hot button that could actually hurt me, he used his 
> > > > tech savvy to flood the search engines pairing my name with this word 
> > > > even in posts that I had nothing to do with.  The tip off was his 
> > > > monitoring of results on youtube.  He knew exactly what he was doing.
> > > > 
> > > > I wont list all the people who stuck up for me, but you all know who 
> > > > you are and I really appreciate your kindness. The day he left was 
> > > > going to be my last day here.  Now the damage is done and I can only 
> > > > hope it will not have its intended malicious effect.  I am a sadder but 
> > > > wiser poster here having been through that.
> > > > 
> > > > Word to the wise:  People can say almost anything here about you with 
> > > > little lasting consequences.  But when someone is repeating a phrase, 
> > > > again and again, it can hurt you and you need to act fast. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> > > > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wasn't aware of it. Let me know if it happens again. Has it 
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > deleted? Would you like me to?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dear Moderator, Alex Jong-il, dealt deftly with that situation, 
> > > > > > > and order was restored in the Universe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dear
> > > > > > FFL Owner and List Moderators, 
> > > > > > Seeking an equal justice under the FFL guidelines
> > > > > > please unsubscribe Turqb, Curtis and Wayback
> > > > > > from FFL
> > > > > > for repeatedly assertin and using my real handle on this list
> > > > > > in addressing replies to my posting here.
> > > > > > You and me know how dangerous this can be
> > > > > > in real life here.
> > > > > > Please respect my anonymity and unsubscribe
> > > > > > these perps.  In light of Ravi's final departure,
> > > > > > this would equally fair.
> > > > > > It is really low what they do.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Buck in FF
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's Buck to you, damit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Buck, when it comes to anonymity, I'm a traditionalist. As far as I'm 
> > > > > concerned, if you have used your real name here in the past, you are 
> > > > > not anonymous, end of story. IMO, Rick opened up a whole can of 
> > > > > stupid when he decided that Vaj could have his anonymity "restored", 
> > > > > even though he has posted here in the past under his real name. 
> > > > > Non-anonymous people who decide they want to be regarded as anonymous 
> > > > > need to take it up with Rick, because that is ridiculous dumbassery 
> > > > > that I will have no part of.
> > > > > 
> > > > > With respect to shukra69, although he didn't use his real name on 
> > > > > FFL, he did attach his real name to that moniker on another site; 
> > > > > strictly speaking, that means he was never anonymous to begin with. 
> > > > > But, I have a lot more sympathy for him than I do for someone who 
> > > > > wants his anonymity "restored" after openly posting here with his 
> > > > > real name. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To be truly anonymous, you need to do what Nabby does: use a moniker 
> > > > > that he has in absolutely no way publicly linked with his real name. 
> > > > > IMO, unless you do that, you have no reasonable expectation to be 
> > > > > regarded as anonymous.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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