--- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...> wrote: > > Thanks Barry. I think that is a key, to be able to disagree > without getting into personal attacks. I have always enjoyed > your contributions here, even when I have found myself in > disagreement with your perspectives. But you've seen alot, > done alot, and yes I think sometimes your initial assessments, > while harsh have been shown to be correct.
I will cop to the occasional harshness. :-) You have to understand that -- as opposed to the New Agey Woo Woo environment of the TMO -- life in the Rama trip or in subsequent Tibetan settings was more like a dojo. We were all equals, martial artists in search of spiritual experience, and we didn't pull punches. Honesty was prized more highly than flattery, especially if someone's thinking or behavior seemed to be "off." As for my "initial assessments," sometimes it blows my mind that people can't see what's so obviously right in front of their faces. During their first two weeks on this forum there was adequate data from which to deduce that both Ravi and Robin were more than a little mentally ill. It wasn't so much in what they said (although some- times the choice of subject matter -- mainly Me, Me, Me -- was a big tipoff), as in *how* they said it. As Susan and others have pointed out, the worrisome thing was in the thinking processes themselves. Suffice it to say I found too little coherence there to bother with reading more, and said so. > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > Count me in for a big "Me, too" on this one. You have > > disagreed with me plenty on this forum (as is your right), > > but I have never once felt that heavy hate vibe I feel > > from some others. I think you are wise to consider each > > new insight on a subject AS new, and thus an opportunity > > to re-evaluate everything that went before. > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > > > > And Steve, predictably, goes with whatever context he's > > > > > > > read most recently, especially if he senses a trend in > > > > > > > the direction of that context. > > > > > > > > > I've been thinking about this. (and I had to come home for the > > > > dishwasher repairman) > > > > > > > > Regarding this most instance with Robin, where I appear to have > > > > contradictory opinions, I want to offer a little clarification. > > > > > > > > For me, I found his explanations adequate, regarding his striking > and > > > > when, if, why it happened. But my relationship with Robin is less > > > > active than some others here, and a little less controversial. > Plus, my > > > > habit, or modus operendi, is to not press people too much on > issues I > > > > may not agree with. I prefer, if possible, to remain on more > cordial > > > > terms. So, even though I found his explanation a little lame, I > went > > > > with it. > > > > > > > > But I felt Curtis, who has had a more involved relationship with > Robin, > > > > and has been on the receiving end of many of Robin's challenges, > had > > > > every right to press him on these issues. Isn't that how it > works-to > > > > give as good as you get. > > > > > > > > It's similiar to the Ravi situation. I worst Ravi ever got with me > was > > > > to call me a "pea brained heartland retard". It didn't much bother > me, > > > > but I did lose any affection I had for the guy. But over all, I > felt > > > > that an appropiate sanction for him would be for a time out. > > > > > > > > But if I had been in, say, Curtis' position, where I was subject > to > > > > vicious personal attacks, where my reputation and career were at > stake, > > > > then I likely would have felt differently. > > > > > > > > So, just wanted to pass that one. > > > > > > > > P.S. Evidently they removed phosphates from dishwasher cleaner a > year > > > > and half ago, which causes caking, and may prevent the soap > compartment > > > > from easily opening. A recommended cleaner is "Dishwasher Magic". > > > > Also, using individual packet of dishwasher cleaner "gel caps" > might > > > > help alleviate the problem. FYI. (-: > > > > > > > > > >
