--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote: > > See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even > Curtis....well....except perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry > opinion coming on. Â > >
Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF > ________________________________ > From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. > > > Â > Susan, > > Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > Edg, > > You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, > > everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. > > I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially > > religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more > > discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and > > we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right > > tone. > > > > Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, > > but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of > > TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful > > knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been > > given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It > > seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing > > TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling > > since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that > > initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least > > during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some > > groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very > > respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace > > comes to mind, and Jerry too.. > > > > I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. > > Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are > > different now. I do not know. > > You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces > > of some of the people who learned TM from you. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > > > Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. > > > > > > > > I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an > > > > insider. > > > > > > > > Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis > > > > et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. > > > > > > > > And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one > > > > incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our > > > > Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being > > > > interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that > > > > Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a > > > > rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols > > > > such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. > > > > > > > > And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to > > > > put everyone in their place. > > > > > > > > Nah, I never was "important" to the movement even after 2,000 people > > > > taught.....my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of > > > > earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. > > > > > > Poor Edg really got the shaft, well....your reward will be in heaven! ;-) > > > > > > PS I can relate... > > > > > > > And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the > > > > rich parents. > > > > > > > > And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. > > > > > > > > Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. > > > > > > > > Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when > > > > the movement always saw one as expendable. > > > > > > > > Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything > > > > but look up the noses looking down at me. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > >
