Scroll to 41:50: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2002081722988127640#I don't mean to be mean, but there's no way with that much statistical correlation to be just a fluke. Everyone probably doesn't agree with it because it's way too bizarre, spiritual and new to get any people to believe it. Like John says, it may take a generation to die out, but eventually people will have to agree with it. My guess is people's hearts probably don't agree and they don't want to "give in". My spiritual beliefs would probably say maybe it's not the right time or maybe people will find something better. Maybe at this time all we need is a small group of people doing it and the world doesn't need everyone to do it. Also you may be right that something is wrong with it as people may sense, but not in terms of it dropping crime rate that has been proved. Maybe the world showed us once, as I believe in the Washington DC study that murder rate went up to an all-time high. That could be nature's way of telling us something.
________________________________ From: salyavin808 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness and Quantum Gibberish --- In [email protected], Shain McVay <shainm307@...> wrote: > > Whoever wrote that never truly did their research. I mean when they did the > Washington DC study, they had a whole bunch of skeptics in with them making > sure the study was conducted correctly. When they did the study not only did > all the skeptics agree to all the ways the study was conducted, but also they > agreed to the findings of the study. The Maharishi people weren't the only > one's directing and analyzing the study. The findings of just this one study > are overwhelming in presenting that the Maharishi Effect is true. Now they've > done the studies over 90 times and they've found the same thing happen > everytime - the crime rate goes down.\ If it's overwhelming how come no-one believes it? It looks like a bunch of unconvincing statistics to me, and even if it had dropped by 20% the crime rates fluctuate by that much all the time, if you can't tell if they're there or not it isn't of much use! And the Lebanon study was worse as one of the WPAs took place in Holland and they still claimed it as proof! If this effect travels via a field the effect would be dramatically reduced by the time got to lebanon - it wasn't so it makes me wonder what they think they were testing. My memory of the war isn't one of conflict seperated by periods of calm so again, if you can't tell they are there..... How would it work anyway? Terms like "creating coherence in collective consciousness" don't actually make a whole lot of sense, what is the mechanism that can make people do something different at a distance without them realising? At the very best the washington study is like tossing a coin and getting five heads in a row, impressive but if you do it 100 times it evens itself out. All paranormal research has done this the IA course has been running for years in tandem with huge groups of meditators and the yagya programme, can anyone honestly say things have got better in the last 5 years? And don't give me any "phase transition" crap, if that was a part of the theory why didn't it happen in Washington? Case not proved. ________________________________ > From: Yifu <yifuxero@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:09 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Consciousness and Quantum Gibberish > > > >  > > from Skeptic.com, by Dr. Heinz Pagels, physicist.: > ... > " > The claim that the fields of modern physics have anything to do with the > "field of consciousness" is false. The notion that what physicists call "the > vacuum state" has anything to do with consciousness is nonsense. The claim > that large numbers of people meditating helps reduce crime and war by > creating a unified field of consciousness is foolishness of a high order. The > presentation of the ideas of modern physics side by side, and apparently > supportive of, the ideas of the Maharishi about pure consciousness can only > be intended to deceive those who might not know any better. > > Reading these materials authorized by the Maharishi causes me distress > because I am a man who values the truth. To see the beautiful and profound > ideas of modern physics, the labor of generations of scientists, so willfully > perverted provokes a feeling of compassion for those who might be taken in by > these distortions. I would like to be generous to the Maharishi and his > movement because it supports world peace and other high ideals. But none of > these ideals could possibly be realized within the framework of a philosophy > that so willfully distorts scientific truth (Pagels). > What Chopra is peddling is quantum gibberish." >
