--- In [email protected], "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
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> > > Set James Randi on it, he'll design the study to end them all 
> > > but he's looked at it and concluded it isn't worth the effort.
> > 
> > Oh, that's impressive.
> 
> You sneer? At least someone has spent their life trying to show
> paranormal beliefs are just that, beliefs. And showed it rather
> convincingly I might add.
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> > No matter how elaborate a study he designed, he couldn't
> > falsify the ME.
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> Not to you I would say, for the rest of us he could show, like 
> he has for all types of woo-woo that it doesn't stand up to 
> scrutiny.
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> > > It would be down to the TMO to prove it and I think they've
> > > tried with the IA course and the yagya programme and all the
> > > many thousands of new meditators and sidhas. The coin has been
> > > tossed a great many times now.
> > 
> > But there are still a bunch of those apparently black
> > swans (switching metaphors on you).
> 
> Maybe they only appear black if you have rose-tinted
> spectacles on?
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> > What's this about "many thousands of new meditators and
> > sidhas"? That will come as a surprise to some of the other
> > TM critics here.
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> So what? According to the TMO it's a new dawn in numbers of
> TM practintioners. Fairly sure we would see something by now,
> unless......
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Eh, MMY's original rhetoric was "through the window of science, we can see the 
dawn." He was very careful to point out that proclaiming down once the Sun was 
fully visible, wasn't a big deal and that he was  proclaiming it based on the 
faintest glimmering of light, etc.



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