--- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote:
>
> Yifu and FFL readers,
> 
> For your information, Dr. Pagels died in 1988. Any statements 
> that he made while alive has been superceded by discoveries 
> made in recent years in quantum physics.  If he was alive 
> today, he would have changed his position.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Pagels

I rest my case. Quantum Idiots.

> --- In [email protected], "Yifu" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >
> > from Skeptic.com, by Dr. Heinz Pagels, physicist.:
> > ...
> > "
> > The claim that the fields of modern physics have anything to do with the 
> > "field of consciousness" is false. The notion that what physicists call 
> > "the vacuum state" has anything to do with consciousness is nonsense. The 
> > claim that large numbers of people meditating helps reduce crime and war by 
> > creating a unified field of consciousness is foolishness of a high order. 
> > The presentation of the ideas of modern physics side by side, and 
> > apparently supportive of, the ideas of the Maharishi about pure 
> > consciousness can only be intended to deceive those who might not know any 
> > better.
> > 
> > Reading these materials authorized by the Maharishi causes me distress 
> > because I am a man who values the truth. To see the beautiful and profound 
> > ideas of modern physics, the labor of generations of scientists, so 
> > willfully perverted provokes a feeling of compassion for those who might be 
> > taken in by these distortions. I would like to be generous to the Maharishi 
> > and his movement because it supports world peace and other high ideals. But 
> > none of these ideals could possibly be realized within the framework of a 
> > philosophy that so willfully distorts scientific truth (Pagels).
> > What Chopra is peddling is quantum gibberish."
> >
>


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