Bari sez: "Of course intellectually constructed concepts of enlightenment are lame anyway. Only experience counts."
You statement is an intellectually constructed conceptual argument. Also, the assertion that "only experience counts" is a conclusion and is not in itself experientially self-evident. It too, is just a concept. Your comment displays your bias towards a Western style neo-experientialism (i.e. post-Vivekananada). Apparently, like Robert (Erik Chaim Steinschneider), you never followed the link and read the article. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: > > > > On 06/14/2012 11:49 AM, emptybill wrote: > > Chaim you are grandstanding again. > > > > Is this your new Palace of the Occult? > > > > Are you still on that stage even here? > > > > > > > > Consider reading the article before you comment. It gives an accurate > > account of Shankara's central teaching points and demonstrates the > > divergence between Shankara's original advaita and the yogic advaita > > that appeared after the fourteenth century. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"babajii_99@ wrote: > >>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:16 PM, emptybill wrote: > >>> > >>>> What is Advaita? > >> Yes, there is such a thing as 'Enlightenment' as all the Ancient > > texts in every culture talk of it... > >> All the Mystics talk of it, and experience it... > >> > >> It is simple becoming familiar with the state of 'Being Within' > >> The state where the 'Witnessor Collapses' and all that is left is the > > experience of pure consciousness... Now, with many years of transcending > > with a mantra, as in TM, there becomes a familiarity with the 'Inward > > Stroke of Meditation'... > >> So, as one becomes familiar with 'Witnessing' , one can, at the same > > time, use the 'Self as a Reference, within'...this is called > > 'Self-Referral'... > >> We becoming familiar with the Witness as the basis of all thought, all > > sound, all the senses, all the emotions, all possible phenomanon, > >> at the basis of 'Existence Itself'... And this state is 'Cultured in > > Activity'...we allow our reference point to continually dwell on the > > 'Inward Stroke' of Dhana Shakti, while at the same time, all the > > attention to be on the 'Abstact Witness'... > >> So, Enlightenment Dawns, when one becomes familiar enough with the > > Witnessor, as well as attuning the 'Intellect' to rely on Being, instead > > of relying on the 'Outside World' for 'Objective' reality... > >> We Realize the the 'Only Reality in Reality' is 'Pure Abstract > > Subjectivity....thus everything that is taking place in the 'So-Called > > Outside Objective World' really is just a play on your own 'Jiva' and > > once you Realize this Jiva to be Atma'...then the 'Soul begins to > > Experience Directly'...the experience of being 'Unbounded' while at the > > same time, projecting itself through the senses and the body... > >> Robert > >> > > >
