--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
>
> > Curtis, you may be correct in all that you say. I am getting impressions
> > from people who read the email that Sal sent that it was not a pleasant
> > email to receive for Emily. Emily has said so and Judy has said so, both of
> > whom read the letter.
>
> M: I am not denying that, I was objecting to the histrionic characterization
> Judy was trying to use to create a fuss that you bought into.
>
LG: DNFTT
>
> A:So I am going to back out now that I have put in my two cents regarding the
> conclusion I drew from all of the to-ing and fro-ing on this subject. I am
> going to back out because I did not read the email and thus can not comment
> further on it.
> However, I can and did want to say what I said regarding the general play of
> personalities and human nature as I saw it based on discussions of this issue.
>
> M: It clarified a bias I was unaware of.
>
LG: DNFTT
> A: At this point, if Sal is all she is cracked up to be by those who love and
> support her, it would be about that time when she could step out from behind
> that curtain and say her lines.
>
> M: Slow news day huh? I think all the actual participants are all fine at
> this point. Thanks for your concern.
>
LG: DNFTT
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ME: Jesus, did someone call a meeting?
> > >
> > > >A: Here is the thing, the email, according to Curtis, was supportive
> > > >and ego-stroking to Curtis.
> > >
> > > M: Sorry to intrude in the fantasy, but there was no "ego stroking". She
> > > was defending me for something she believed to be unfair.
> > >
> > > A: When that happens and yet the other side of the email was allegedly
> > > an unwarranted and vicious attack on Emily, Curtis appears to not be able
> > > to get beyond the fact that he liked the email because Sal was
> > > complimentary to him.
> > >
> > > M: Sorry spin sister, no go. Even Judy didn't try this routine and she
> > > read it.
> > >
> > > A: If he really has no problem with Emily (and frankly, why should he?)
> > > then he should have understood and admitted that Sal's email to Emily was
> > > harsh, ugly, unjustified.
> > >
> > >
> > > M: Unless that isn't how I viewed it.
> > >
> > > A: Instead of liking the email because it was good for his ego he should
> > > have (if he had any respect or reasonable feeling for Emily's position)
> > >
> > > M: Now you are really running with that ball you created aren't you?
> > >
> > > A: gotten beyond his subjective support of this otherwise mean-spirited
> > > and traumatizing correspondence and called it for what it was.
> > >
> > > M: And that would be because someone else's subjective opinion about the
> > > letter is the "right" one? I don't agree with Judy or Emily about how
> > > horrible the letter was. You tipped your hand a bit far with the word
> > > "traumatizing". I think you and Raunchy are being a bit too eager to
> > > please Judy. I don't see any reason to think Emily was traumatized by the
> > > email. Nor should she have been. I read it.
> > >
> > >
> > > A: That has not happened and therefore I question Curtis' intentions and
> > > values not to mention his motives for treating Emily badly by not
> > > supporting her and understanding where she was coming from in her pain.
> > > But maybe that is asking too much.
> > >
> > >
> > > M: Feeling a little mean today?
> > >
> > > Emily and I are fine, sorry to disappoint. At least I am fine with her
> > > and our last exchange was very friendly and full of understanding and
> > > tolerance for each others differences.
> > >
> > > The very qualities your post lacks.
> >
> > Curtis, you may be correct in all that you say. I am getting impressions
> > from people who read the email that Sal sent that it was not a pleasant
> > email to receive for Emily. Emily has said so and Judy has said so, both of
> > whom read the letter. So I am going to back out now that I have put in my
> > two cents regarding the conclusion I drew from all of the to-ing and
> > fro-ing on this subject. I am going to back out because I did not read the
> > email and thus can not comment further on it. However, I can and did want
> > to say what I said regarding the general play of personalities and human
> > nature as I saw it based on discussions of this issue. At this point, if
> > Sal is all she is cracked up to be by those who love and support her, it
> > would be about that time when she could step out from behind that curtain
> > and say her lines.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So Emily and I are cool now. Have fun with
> > > > > > > > > whatever this thing is that seems to interest you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have fun believing that you and Emily are cool now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that if you play the song "Imagine"
> > > > > > > backwards, it generates one of your posts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > You may be cool with Emily, Curtis, but I doubt she's
> > > > > > cool with you. After calling her motives into question
> > > > > > so brutally, do you really think she trusts you? Just
> > > > > > curious...
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a number of things Curtis can't change.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. He can't change the ugly email Sal wrote Emily accusing
> > > > > her of being mean to him.
> > > > > 2. He can't change the fact that he then defended Sal on FFL.
> > > > > 3. He can't change the fact that he tried to make Sal's email
> > > > > sound like no big deal.
> > > > > 4. He can't change the fact that he accused Emily of sending
> > > > > me Sal's email to foment a public fight, after Emily had
> > > > > explicitly explained otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why *would* Emily want to be "cool" with Curtis in light of
> > > > > those facts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nor can Curtis change the fact that I've also read Sal's email.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis *could* have avoided all but #1 (at least as far as we
> > > > > know; was the email really all Sal's idea? did she run it by
> > > > > him, and if so did he encourage her to send it?). If he had
> > > > > not defended Sal, if he had acknowledged the ugliness of Sal's
> > > > > email, if he hadn't attributed ulterior motives to Emily for
> > > > > sending me the email, he wouldn't be out of favor with Emily,
> > > > > and folks on FFL wouldn't be wondering about his integrity.
> > > > >
> > > > > If one of my supporters had written a nasty email to
> > > > > someone viciously castigating them for purportedly putting
> > > > > me down, and I found out about it, I'd call the emailer out
> > > > > on FFL by name.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curtis *definitely* doesn't have the integrity to do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > > When Emily played off Robin's irony email did you think
> > > > > > she was teasing you or did it piss you off? Was your
> > > > > > poor treatment of her pay back for a bruised ego or did
> > > > > > it have nothing to do with this:
> > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319723
> > > > >
> > > > > Good question. But if he deigns to respond to it, will we
> > > > > have any reason to trust what he tells us? Will Emily?
> > > >
> > > > Here is the thing, the email, according to Curtis, was supportive and
> > > > ego-stroking to Curtis. When that happens and yet the other side of the
> > > > email was allegedly an unwarranted and vicious attack on Emily, Curtis
> > > > appears to not be able to get beyond the fact that he liked the email
> > > > because Sal was complimentary to him. If he really has no problem with
> > > > Emily (and frankly, why should he?) then he should have understood and
> > > > admitted that Sal's email to Emily was harsh, ugly, unjustified.
> > > > Instead of liking the email because it was good for his ego he should
> > > > have (if he had any respect or reasonable feeling for Emily's position)
> > > > gotten beyond his subjective support of this otherwise mean-spirited
> > > > and traumatizing correspondence and called it for what it was. That has
> > > > not happened and therefore I question Curtis' intentions and values not
> > > > to mention his motives for treating Emily badly by not supporting her
> > > > and understanding where she was coming from in her pain. But maybe that
> > > > is asking too much.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
