--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Robin offered a friendly invitation to prove he is a normal
> > > > human being. 
> > > 
> > > To whom?
> > 
> > To anyone who is interested, obviously.
> > 
> > > Obviously I am not in question. I am living in a different 
> > > continent and have only marginal interest in all of this.
> > > I base my judgments on what I read here, based and backed
> > > up by my experience of a lifetime of meeting all kinds of
> > > people, crazy and sane.
> > 
> > Non sequitur. The issue is, why are you carping at Robin
> > because he invited people to come meet him? That makes no
> > sense whatsoever.
> > 
> > > > Why are you are choosing to see this as a challenge? 
> > > 
> > > What's the point in trying to 'prove' anything at all,
> > > especially to people who were harmed once? Don't you see
> > > where they may perceive the danger? The very harm was in
> > > those 'confrontations'. So, Raunchy, be realistic, how
> > > would those people feel, who were once manipulated, when
> > > they where asked to meet the man who obviously manipulated
> > > them, because he needed to tell them something 'very
> > > important', and that would be that he has changed?
> > 
> > This is insane. Nobody *has* to come meet him. It was an
> > *offer*, an invitation, not a demand.
> 
> A challenge.
> 
> > > Why can't he just say 'Mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa'?
> > 
> > HE'S DONE THAT ALREADY MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.
> 
> But not convincingly though. For that there is too much self-defense in it. 
> There are too many aspects in the whole thing he still believes in. For 
> example the idea that he has a special access to the 1st person ontology of 
> people. And that's a very serious one, believe me, not something to joke 
> about.
> > 
> > > > Can you imagine what it must feel like be in a position
> > > > where you need to prove you are good and decent person,
> > > > now changed from 25 years ago? 
> > > 
> > > That's my point: where's the need to prove it? That's so
> > > absurd. And then Raunchy, anyone, anywhere, will not just
> > > be a trustful to believe someone has changed just on the
> > > hearsay of it. So what? Why the NEED to convince? That in
> > > itself makes him suspicious.
> > 
> > This person is mentally ill. That is not a normal way of
> > looking at this.
> 
> You should now feel some compassion toward me :->
> > 
> > > > What else would you have him do?
> > > 
> > > Nothing. Just let people have their opinions.
> > 
> > He's doing that. He's also offering to let them see what
> > he's like now, if they're interested.
> 
> Now that 'also offering' is contradicting the first statement. It is 
> undermining it directly, and more so as he does so only as a reaction to his 
> perceived 'wrong' portrayal in CULT. Now, if he would have evolved in a major 
> way, he would be able to accept the way he was perceived. He would not try to 
> convince people that he is different. His very wish to INFLUENCE people even 
> now is the problem. ACCEPTANCE of the status quo would be the solution. Of 
> course IMHO 
> 
> > > > Where's the compassion you spoke of? Diagnosing Robin
> > > > with BPD is a heaping pile of inappropriateness on your
> > > > part, IMO.
> > > >
> > > I didn't even mention Robin when posting the link. You are
> > > interpreting a little too much into this.
> > 
> > Everybody here knows why you posted it, khazana. You didn't
> > have to mention Robin for that to be obvious. Your dishonesty
> > is not helping you.
> >
> I was thinking of him, yes, but this was not a clear cut 'diagnosis' at all. 
> It was just a piece of information for myself, to form an opinion, which I 
> shared. Only one aspect, a consideration, and I phrased it very carefully, 
> with the intention not to hurt anybody, knowing the likes of insensitive 
> people like you would just madly jump at it.
>

Having now admitted what everyone suspected, that you posted about BPD with 
Robin in mind, did it feel good to validate your *opinion* of him so that you 
could denigrate him in good conscience? I'd say you were pretty darn 
insensitive yourself and slanderously presumptuous, to go balls out BPD on him, 
I might add.

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