Barry is the very definition of a Third Dreamer. Ignore him, Edg, he lives in fantasy land continuously.
--- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Edg, all these years on this forum and you still don't > get why people respond to Curtis and don't bother to > respond to you. He just lays shit out for the fun of it, > for the fun of writing and for the fun of playing with > words and ideas, and...uh...just for fun, period. Your > response or non-response -- *anyone's* response or non- > response -- is not part of the equation. > > You throw stuff out that you find fascinating and then > throw a succession of tantrums when no one CARES whether > water lines up like Nazi troops parading in front of the > Reichstag when you shine a light on it. When people don't > react, you go all drama queen about it, as if by not > finding it interesting, they are saying that they don't > find YOU interesting. > > Uh...scratch that. That may be exactly what their silence > is saying. :-) > > One gets the feeling that Curtis doesn't take himself all > SERIOUSLY and that he doesn't demand that others do. You, > not so much. Just the opposite, in fact. I've been trying > to clue you in to this side of yourself since you first > appeared here, and you still seem oblivious to it. > > Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out > and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) > take them and run with them and have fun with them. > > Your writings (along with several others' writing on this > forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then > demand payment, in the form of attention. Some of us have > gotten used to marking them "Return To Sender" and sending > them back unopened, that's all. > > "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Who's the smart one here? > > > > I merely mentioned you in passing, and I get about two thousand megawatts > > of Curtis placing words better than Shakespeare (that is: if Shakespeare > > were to be somehow resuscitated and, you know, had to catch up on life for > > a few years before he could be reasonably expected to write something more > > insightful than you.) > > > > So even if Shakespeare were to be here tomorrow, I'm going to be reading > > The Wisdom of Curtis for quite some time to come. > > > > Curtis rat-a-tats here so frequently that probably his nervous system could > > by now -- being hardwired so thoroughly -- type out at least three more > > words if his head were lopped off as he typed -- so passionately does he > > commit to being him, the whole him and only the him he thinks we should all > > regard him to be. > > > > That said, the man is a dolt. > > > > Like me. > > > > Like anyone. > > > > And that's because we're all such cowards. > > > > Cuz, you know, who WOULD want to believe in God? It's painful to begin > > with and requires ones death for certainty. > > > > When I believe in God, it hurts. Cuz all my other parts will do anything > > to keep me identified with them instead. Who doesn't blush when the > > concept "God is omniscient" is presented? Who hasn't earned a lump of > > coal? > > > > Curtis is afraid of God just like all of us. We all know how we could have > > saved the world, been saints, cured every problem, and then we decided TM > > was ersatz instead, and so God had to be denied or else we'd be sweating > > the after-life cuz we could be asked at the Pearly Gates just why we didn't > > do that good shit we cudda done and instead spent thousands and thousands > > of hours doing anything BUT. > > > > Being on FFL for instance. > > > > And Curtis cannot be squished into doing whatever it would take to get to > > where my view of God would be thereby finally validated to him due to his > > own nervous system having GROWN to such a stature that clarity finally was > > achieved. Nor can he squish me into his POV. (And he will for sure make a > > pun of "squish." Probably a dirty pun.) > > > > And now to get to an actuality that Curtis has yet to respond to even > > though I've posted about it twice now. That is: the orderliness of water > > when light shines on it and what that means if one considers the > > orderliness of the WATER inside ONE'S OWN BRAINS. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XVBEwn6iWOo > > > > Curtis, my bud, come on, this video is made for you. You will eat this > > shit up. And then we can see if I can toggle ya about divinity being real > > instead of "light being actual." > > > > Edg > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the > > > > Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors > > > > backstage shedding their assumed characters. > > > > > > > > I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY > > > > GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. > > > > > > > > I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow > > > > got me to reply. > > > > > > > > If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just > > > > slips my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. > > > > So, Ravi, there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to > > > > enjoin. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > Hey I'm always up for that Edge. But right now lets have a little > > > experiment. Let's see who can toss a peppermint soft mint right on the > > > belly of the baby Jesus right now as you read this...go. > > > > > > I nailed him on the first try and it actually enhances his beatific > > > splendor. It looks like a smart little red striped tank top, so I can't > > > wait to hear if you...what was that? You are not seated within a soft > > > mint lob of the baby Jesus on the 10th day of advent? > > > > > > Gotta say if we are both at the Pearly Gates together and there is only > > > one opening left, I am gunna have to bring up this little absence of > > > devotion on your part Edge. > > > > > > Now you can just contemplate who is the godless one in this discussion > > > while I make a matching hipster hat out of a Jujube for the little divine > > > tyke. Nothing says savior of mankind like edible clothing. No wait L'll > > > JC, cock it a little to the side, oh yes that nails it, pure Seattle > > > post ironic attitude! Now drift off to sleep, you've got a lot of sins to > > > shed blood for. That's a good little Son O' God. > > > > > > Hey Joseph I think there is a loose board or something around the back of > > > the manger, you'd better go check it out. Yeah I hear you are the right > > > man for the job, that's right out that way, see you a bit later... > > > > > > Soooo Mary, how YOU do'n? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending > > > > > that > > > > > response. I had to google "krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra" > > > > > to get > > > > > those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like > > > > > it to > > > > > be but looking back it's a very good comeback. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head > > > > > > to > > > > > > show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. > > > > > > > > > > > > If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the > > > > > > > > generic > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > of the word "you" then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, > > > > > > > > while I'm > > > > > > > > waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, > > > > > > > > cuz, I > > > > > > > > never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me > > > > > > > > until > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > think you > > > > > > > > can do this service for me? It would grand of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, > > > > > > > > > so that > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with > > > > > > > > what is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away > > > > > > > > from it. > > > > > > Stop > > > > > > > > being life's bitch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you do that, examine each component, including this > > > > > > > > > retarded > > > > > > notion > > > > > > > > that you are forever locked in mental slavery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of > > > > > > > > > mind, and > > > > > > > > non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, > > > > > > > > dealing > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > who YOU thinks you is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogis are fond of saying "Not this, not this, not this." (In > > > > > > Sanskrit > > > > > > > > it's "Neti, neti, neti." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no > > > > > > > > > > image, no > > > > > > sound, > > > > > > > > no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses > > > > > > > > must be > > > > > > > > just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > real actual God-God will do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! > > > > > > > > > > Things, > > > > > > > > attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be > > > > > > imperfect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The human mind's contents, for instance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much > > > > > > > > > > work, so the > > > > > > > > yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's > > > > > > > > claim of > > > > > > > > sentience, then you're home free, because it is the ego that > > > > > > > > names and > > > > > > > > frames all of creation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I just said, "The little voice in your head is not > > > > > > > > > > you; it's a > > > > > > > > liar." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, that needy little twit has to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And when every thing's ephemerality has been established, > > > > > > > > > > guess > > > > > > what, > > > > > > > > GOD REMAINS REAL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
