God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, "What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much..."
You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > ... > > Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out > > and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) > > take them and run with them and have fun with them. > > > > Your writings (along with several others' writing on this > > forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then > > demand payment, in the form of attention. > > The more I think about this "gift vs. invoices" metaphor, > the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, > describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement > took and continue to take about what they presented to > the world. > > While *calling* them "gifts," and pretending benevolence, > there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- > only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of > dollars, much more if you wanted the "good stuff." Even > now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn > *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else > (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such > TBs that they continue pressing the "Ca-ching" buttons > on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing > the food lever when you add sugar to it. > > Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't > demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are > saving the world...he just demands that the world give > them the *credit* for saving it. > > Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation > traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have > learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling > you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. > > Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this "gifts vs. > invoicing" metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous > 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents > on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. > Some people are going to respond and put some money in > your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let > whether they do or not drive your performance, or it > becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put > your energy into making it the best performance you can > give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or > not. > > What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, > people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, > and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much. > > I'm rapping about this because I honestly think that this > "invoicing" metaphor characterizes much of what is said > here on this forum. Judy and Robin and Ann and Emily and > Ravi and Jimbo and Emily post something and essentially > *demand* a reply. And if one is not forthcoming, and in > the form that they wanted, they lash out and start > calling people names. > > It seems to me that they could learn a little something > from busking -- or even from "writing for a living." Those > who do this learn very quickly that NO ONE 'OWES' THEM > A DAMN THING. You get a favorable response -- or any > response at all -- by putting enough merit into what you > say to deserve a response. > > For most people in the world, being presented with a > tirade and then being told that they not only have to > read it, they have to PAY for it in the form of a > response is a bit of a turn-off. >
