Nah, when I finally got the clarity to get out, I also got the clarity to know there was nothing I could do to improve the situation by expressing my angst.
It might have had a cathartic value, but now I'll never know. I do "get off" with my ranting here, so there's that profit, eh? Hee hee. Edg --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Edg-y, I do like your writing and your personality on here in general. It > occurs to me to ask if you have communicated this type of dissatisfaction to > the TMO? It feels good to do stuff like that. Express the personal in > opposition to the culture, once in awhile, through accepted means. I have > done it a fair amount from a young age, and it has helped keep me in balance, > and maintain my personal power and integrity in the world. > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I know two of the Rajas -- worked for one for two years, knew the other via > > pot-lucks. Both millionaires AT BIRTH -- both assholes....mean > > assholes....haughty, rude motherfucking assholes. Did I make myself clear? > > I don't know about the others. > > > > Again I ask, who in the hell concludes with certainty that they are a > > world-class spiritual leader when all they really have is a million bucks? > > An idiot, right? > > > > Anyone who thinks they are knower of reality, here in FFL, step up and tell > > me why I'm wrong about these Rajas because you're sooooo tuned into > > goodness that you know these guys are CORE and jiggy with God. I'll wait. > > > > And I don't give shit one if you know these guys are kind and nice and > > responsible and funny and smart and productive -- I can make a list of such > > people who are on death row. > > > > These Rajas either know the "money story" and the "Girish story" or THEY > > DON'T. If they do, fuck 'em, if they don't, they're too fucking clueless > > to even be a silly Raja. > > > > When I was TM teacher only six months into it, I had folks asking me if I > > was enlightened. Why? Because I was kind and spouted ancient knowledge. > > BAH! Anyone can be fooled by anyone into thinking someone is special. > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > "And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of > > > criminality right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to > > > their self: "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it > > > as an overlord!" > > > > > > Speaking of certainty, ever actually spoken with a RAJA, face to face, > > > over time? ...didn't think so...The one I have known for nearly twenty > > > years is a very humble person, who has not tried to denigrate, manipulate > > > or BS me, ever. Always honest and open - don't always agree with each > > > other's ideas, though there is always mutual respect, and consideration. > > > We haven't seen each other for a few years, but did have an interesting > > > email exchange a couple months ago about immortality. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainty is the drug addiction of the ego. > > > > > > > > But but but, though I personally cannot bear witness to any big crimes > > > > of the TMO, I can bear witness to having been told many many many > > > > stories about the movement's chicanery -- told by those who were in a > > > > position to know. Too many stories --at least some of them are/were > > > > true. > > > > > > > > Of course, let's point at the elephant under the rug: almost all the > > > > money the movement has collected has been disappeared into India -- > > > > Girish et alia. > > > > > > > > Talk about your crimes! > > > > > > > > Then there's the thousands of ATR credits that were simply taken away > > > > with ZERO fucks given by the movement leaders. > > > > > > > > How about the movement saying, "Oh by the way, your center, the one > > > > that all your meditators locally raised the money to buy? SELL IT AND > > > > SEND THE MONEY TO US." > > > > > > > > And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of > > > > criminality right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to > > > > their self: "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule > > > > it as an overlord!" > > > > > > > > Then there's the Course Office people -- the meanest fucks I ever met, > > > > and they could do crime all day and night for their guru. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know very little, but I am certain that many crimes have been > > > > > > committed by the TMO. > > > > > > > > > > LOL!! If you know very little, how can you be certain of anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a complete spectrum of silly to evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > On one end is: On my teacher training, some guy had a car accident > > > > > > and they sneaked him out of Spain before the cops could get him. > > > > > > There were many tales of cash being illegally moved to other > > > > > > countries. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other end: Maharishi is said to told someone to drive fast > > > > > > and not care about the speed limits. Maharishi gave everyone salt > > > > > > and peanuts on the courses even though it was "wrong." > > > > > > > > > > > > Think about the mind-set of the MUM officials when that guy stabbed > > > > > > the other guy. THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- cover the > > > > > > movement's ass and save face AT ANY COST. > > > > > > > > > > > > They all just did what they wanted to do and figured out "words for > > > > > > it" later. No morality. No righteousness. Just self-serving > > > > > > movement besmirching decisions is all. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is all made-up on the spot. I'll bet Maharishi decided on the > > > > > > first set of mantras in about 10 minutes flat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], srijau@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is NO lying cheating or stealing by the people in the > > > > > > > movement you are slandering so carelessly, where is your proof? > > > > > > > Likewise you defame Maharishi with absolutely no proof of any of > > > > > > > the kind of wrongdoing that you parrot from others. The fault is > > > > > > > in yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson > > > > > > > <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the idea that everyone does it so don't fuss with particular > > > > > > > > people who do it is the same kind of bullshit mentality that > > > > > > > > has led to the utterly corrupt practices on Wall Street that > > > > > > > > has led to a world wide economic crisis - where is your proof > > > > > > > > of Gandhi clan corruption other than what you have heard and > > > > > > > > read? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read this comment by an English person commenting on the > > > > > > > > Mayan flyer articles and I passed it on, much like you are > > > > > > > > passing on information and judgement about the Gandhis - I > > > > > > > > don't give damn who else lies, cheats and steals it doesn't > > > > > > > > make it alright for Maharishi and his family to do it too, > > > > > > > > especially when they have been taking money under false > > > > > > > > pretenses for decades and then can't even bring themselves to > > > > > > > > handle the wealth legitimately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I have said before, I believe in results and in manifest > > > > > > > > behavior - the kind of behavior that these people manifest show > > > > > > > > a low and selfish level of consciousness and the kind of > > > > > > > > mentality that excuses it for the Marshy family while reviling > > > > > > > > others in India for doing the same thing reminds me of the > > > > > > > > character of the Emperor Commodus as depicted in the movie > > > > > > > > Gladiator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show me the public information that shows without question that > > > > > > > > Maha was an honest custodian of the funds he lived off of for > > > > > > > > nearly 60 years. Back up what you say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and Barry > > > > > > > > because what they relate about Maharishi (who by the way does > > > > > > > > not deserve that title) has the ring of truth AND when you put > > > > > > > > all the stories together with public statements and actions > > > > > > > > (like the scorpion nation episode) you see a consistent picture > > > > > > > > of an egotistical, childishly egotistical, horny, greedy con > > > > > > > > artist who created a movement dedicated not to the > > > > > > > > enlightenment of the world nor the betterment of the individual > > > > > > > > but to making himself an icon and living a high and luxurious > > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are flat out incorrect when you call these things "baseless > > > > > > > > innuendo". Like I said, back up your words - show us the public > > > > > > > > information showing that Maharishi was an honest custodian of > > > > > > > > the funds he received for 57 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All governments are corrupt - which means the people who run > > > > > > > > them are corrupt and that is no excuse for personal or > > > > > > > > institutional corruption and dishonesty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: "srijau@" <srijau@> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:03 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth for Marshy's Kin > > > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > when you are dealing with an utterly corrupt government like > > > > > > > > India's has been for some time then it should come as no > > > > > > > > surprise that one has to resort to things like smuggling gold > > > > > > > > into the country. The Gandhi clan is the one that has been > > > > > > > > single mindedly engaged in self-enrichment and the level of > > > > > > > > manipulation of all facets of government to their ends and > > > > > > > > against anyone they imagine to not support those ends is not > > > > > > > > something that I think you understand. If you were an Indian > > > > > > > > you would especially given the recent revelations of the > > > > > > > > miraculous enrichment of a certain person who married into that > > > > > > > > family. Whatever you claim otherwise is actually based on a lot > > > > > > > > of baseless innuendo and there is public information to the > > > > > > > > contrary but you are the sort of person who repeats lies so as > > > > > > > > to give them credibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mjackson74" > > > > > > > > <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A comment on the article about the 8,000 flyers in Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I too am a former TM sidha. I gave thousands of pounds to > > > > > > > > > the organisation over many years, but had no more to do with > > > > > > > > > it after I got close to an Indian working for the > > > > > > > > > organisation at a senior level. He confided in me that the > > > > > > > > > top people close to Maharishi had asked him to smuggle gold > > > > > > > > > during his trips from Europe and USA back to India!! When he > > > > > > > > > refused they pressured him and made him break down, > > > > > > > > > threatening he would have no future in the organisation if he > > > > > > > > > didn't comply. Thus was back in the 90's when Maharishi was > > > > > > > > > still alive. No wonder the movement in India is rich!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=366529 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
