Yep, feels good to put it on full auto sometimes, and let 'er rip!:-)
--- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Nah, when I finally got the clarity to get out, I also got the clarity to
> know there was nothing I could do to improve the situation by expressing my
> angst.
>
> It might have had a cathartic value, but now I'll never know.
>
> I do "get off" with my ranting here, so there's that profit, eh?
>
> Hee hee.
>
> Edg
>
> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Edg-y, I do like your writing and your personality on here in general. It
> > occurs to me to ask if you have communicated this type of dissatisfaction
> > to the TMO? It feels good to do stuff like that. Express the personal in
> > opposition to the culture, once in awhile, through accepted means. I have
> > done it a fair amount from a young age, and it has helped keep me in
> > balance, and maintain my personal power and integrity in the world.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I know two of the Rajas -- worked for one for two years, knew the other
> > > via pot-lucks. Both millionaires AT BIRTH -- both assholes....mean
> > > assholes....haughty, rude motherfucking assholes. Did I make myself
> > > clear? I don't know about the others.
> > >
> > > Again I ask, who in the hell concludes with certainty that they are a
> > > world-class spiritual leader when all they really have is a million
> > > bucks? An idiot, right?
> > >
> > > Anyone who thinks they are knower of reality, here in FFL, step up and
> > > tell me why I'm wrong about these Rajas because you're sooooo tuned into
> > > goodness that you know these guys are CORE and jiggy with God. I'll
> > > wait.
> > >
> > > And I don't give shit one if you know these guys are kind and nice and
> > > responsible and funny and smart and productive -- I can make a list of
> > > such people who are on death row.
> > >
> > > These Rajas either know the "money story" and the "Girish story" or THEY
> > > DON'T. If they do, fuck 'em, if they don't, they're too fucking clueless
> > > to even be a silly Raja.
> > >
> > > When I was TM teacher only six months into it, I had folks asking me if
> > > I was enlightened. Why? Because I was kind and spouted ancient
> > > knowledge. BAH! Anyone can be fooled by anyone into thinking someone is
> > > special.
> > >
> > > Edg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of
> > > > criminality right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to
> > > > their self: "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it
> > > > as an overlord!"
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of certainty, ever actually spoken with a RAJA, face to face,
> > > > over time? ...didn't think so...The one I have known for nearly twenty
> > > > years is a very humble person, who has not tried to denigrate,
> > > > manipulate or BS me, ever. Always honest and open - don't always agree
> > > > with each other's ideas, though there is always mutual respect, and
> > > > consideration. We haven't seen each other for a few years, but did have
> > > > an interesting email exchange a couple months ago about immortality.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Certainty is the drug addiction of the ego.
> > > > >
> > > > > But but but, though I personally cannot bear witness to any big
> > > > > crimes of the TMO, I can bear witness to having been told many many
> > > > > many stories about the movement's chicanery -- told by those who were
> > > > > in a position to know. Too many stories --at least some of them
> > > > > are/were true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, let's point at the elephant under the rug: almost all the
> > > > > money the movement has collected has been disappeared into India --
> > > > > Girish et alia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Talk about your crimes!
> > > > >
> > > > > Then there's the thousands of ATR credits that were simply taken away
> > > > > with ZERO fucks given by the movement leaders.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about the movement saying, "Oh by the way, your center, the one
> > > > > that all your meditators locally raised the money to buy? SELL IT
> > > > > AND SEND THE MONEY TO US."
> > > > >
> > > > > And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of
> > > > > criminality right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say
> > > > > to their self: "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and
> > > > > rule it as an overlord!"
> > > > >
> > > > > Then there's the Course Office people -- the meanest fucks I ever
> > > > > met, and they could do crime all day and night for their guru.
> > > > >
> > > > > Edg
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know very little, but I am certain that many crimes have been
> > > > > > > committed by the TMO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL!! If you know very little, how can you be certain of anything?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a complete spectrum of silly to evil.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On one end is: On my teacher training, some guy had a car
> > > > > > > accident and they sneaked him out of Spain before the cops could
> > > > > > > get him. There were many tales of cash being illegally moved to
> > > > > > > other countries.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the other end: Maharishi is said to told someone to drive
> > > > > > > fast and not care about the speed limits. Maharishi gave
> > > > > > > everyone salt and peanuts on the courses even though it was
> > > > > > > "wrong."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Think about the mind-set of the MUM officials when that guy
> > > > > > > stabbed the other guy. THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- cover
> > > > > > > the movement's ass and save face AT ANY COST.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They all just did what they wanted to do and figured out "words
> > > > > > > for it" later. No morality. No righteousness. Just
> > > > > > > self-serving movement besmirching decisions is all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is all made-up on the spot. I'll bet Maharishi decided on the
> > > > > > > first set of mantras in about 10 minutes flat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Edg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], srijau@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there is NO lying cheating or stealing by the people in the
> > > > > > > > movement you are slandering so carelessly, where is your proof?
> > > > > > > > Likewise you defame Maharishi with absolutely no proof of any
> > > > > > > > of the kind of wrongdoing that you parrot from others. The
> > > > > > > > fault is in yourself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson
> > > > > > > > <mjackson74@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the idea that everyone does it so don't fuss with particular
> > > > > > > > > people who do it is the same kind of bullshit mentality that
> > > > > > > > > has led to the utterly corrupt practices on Wall Street that
> > > > > > > > > has led to a world wide economic crisis - where is your proof
> > > > > > > > > of Gandhi clan corruption other than what you have heard and
> > > > > > > > > read?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I read this comment by an English person commenting on the
> > > > > > > > > Mayan flyer articles and I passed it on, much like you are
> > > > > > > > > passing on information and judgement about the Gandhis - I
> > > > > > > > > don't give damn who else lies, cheats and steals it doesn't
> > > > > > > > > make it alright for Maharishi and his family to do it too,
> > > > > > > > > especially when they have been taking money under false
> > > > > > > > > pretenses for decades and then can't even bring themselves to
> > > > > > > > > handle the wealth legitimately
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Like I have said before, I believe in results and in manifest
> > > > > > > > > behavior - the kind of behavior that these people manifest
> > > > > > > > > show a low and selfish level of consciousness and the kind of
> > > > > > > > > mentality that excuses it for the Marshy family while
> > > > > > > > > reviling others in India for doing the same thing reminds me
> > > > > > > > > of the character of the Emperor Commodus as depicted in the
> > > > > > > > > movie Gladiator.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Show me the public information that shows without question
> > > > > > > > > that Maha was an honest custodian of the funds he lived off
> > > > > > > > > of for nearly 60 years. Back up what you say.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and Barry
> > > > > > > > > because what they relate about Maharishi (who by the way does
> > > > > > > > > not deserve that title) has the ring of truth AND when you
> > > > > > > > > put all the stories together with public statements and
> > > > > > > > > actions (like the scorpion nation episode) you see a
> > > > > > > > > consistent picture of an egotistical, childishly egotistical,
> > > > > > > > > horny, greedy con artist who created a movement dedicated not
> > > > > > > > > to the enlightenment of the world nor the betterment of the
> > > > > > > > > individual but to making himself an icon and living a high
> > > > > > > > > and luxurious life.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are flat out incorrect when you call these things
> > > > > > > > > "baseless innuendo". Like I said, back up your words - show
> > > > > > > > > us the public information showing that Maharishi was an
> > > > > > > > > honest custodian of the funds he received for 57 years.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All governments are corrupt - which means the people who run
> > > > > > > > > them are corrupt and that is no excuse for personal or
> > > > > > > > > institutional corruption and dishonesty.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: "srijau@" <srijau@>
> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:03 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth for Marshy's Kin
> > > > > > > > > Folks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > > > when you are dealing with an utterly corrupt government like
> > > > > > > > > India's has been for some time then it should come as no
> > > > > > > > > surprise that one has to resort to things like smuggling gold
> > > > > > > > > into the country. The Gandhi clan is the one that has been
> > > > > > > > > single mindedly engaged in self-enrichment and the level of
> > > > > > > > > manipulation of all facets of government to their ends and
> > > > > > > > > against anyone they imagine to not support those ends is not
> > > > > > > > > something that I think you understand. If you were an Indian
> > > > > > > > > you would especially given the recent revelations of the
> > > > > > > > > miraculous enrichment of a certain person who married into
> > > > > > > > > that family. Whatever you claim otherwise is actually based
> > > > > > > > > on a lot of baseless innuendo and there is public information
> > > > > > > > > to the contrary but you are the sort of person who repeats
> > > > > > > > > lies so as to give them credibility.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mjackson74"
> > > > > > > > > <mjackson74@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A comment on the article about the 8,000 flyers in Mexico
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "I too am a former TM sidha. I gave thousands of pounds to
> > > > > > > > > > the organisation over many years, but had no more to do
> > > > > > > > > > with it after I got close to an Indian working for the
> > > > > > > > > > organisation at a senior level. He confided in me that the
> > > > > > > > > > top people close to Maharishi had asked him to smuggle gold
> > > > > > > > > > during his trips from Europe and USA back to India!! When
> > > > > > > > > > he refused they pressured him and made him break down,
> > > > > > > > > > threatening he would have no future in the organisation if
> > > > > > > > > > he didn't comply. Thus was back in the 90's when Maharishi
> > > > > > > > > > was still alive. No wonder the movement in India is rich!"
> > > > > > > > > >
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