Share said - "For example, I think and yes, it is my opinion, that how you rearrange Maharishi's name indicates something more than simply stating a fact. And yes, I do think your choice of John Jones is also indicative of something more than simply stating the facts. Such choices and such wordingscontribute to what I call the tone of a post. And it is the tone that to me suggests whether or not and to what degree a person is operating under a charge, an issue."
My reply - Guilty as charged! As to my refusal to name the Srivastavas boys' uncle as a great holy sage, my understanding is that the term maharishi means great sage or rishi, often taken to mean great holy sage or rishi. In my opinion, he was neither holy nor a rishi - as I have often said here on FFL and had it ignored by my detractors, I think he was powerful, intelligent, nearly a genius in some respects, an orator of great ability and truly charismatic. But he was not a maharishi and I will not generally call him such. As to the John Jones analogy (which was brilliant of me, I must admit!) does create a certain rustic ambiance to my Maha and TMO posts, but I don't characterize them as negative. You certainly have not offended me - I learned early on that if one wants to participate here on FFL, one had best expect to receive a verbal mauling every now and again - but your remarks are not offensive to me. Share said - And yes, I understand that you also want to prevent such in the future. We simply differ in our opinions as to how to go about doing that. My reply - So how do you propose that this sort of thing doesn't happen again? And to be clear, it's not that I want the TMO to be what it has always claimed to be since I know that isn't gonna happen even tho Buck and others hold out the hope that the TMO leaders will one day wake up and begin to reverse a 58 year tradition of acting like asses and trampling over everyone to get at the money and power (how's that for ambiance?) What I want is for the general non-meditating public to turn their backs on the TMO and ignore the smarmy David Lynch entreaties to learn TM, the old-timers will either stop doing TM or after they drop their mortal coil the TMO will have zero income so that the Srivastavas boys will begin to raid all Movement assets all over the world as they are doing in India. Bevan, Tony and all the rajas will freak when they realize the nephews aren't gonna give them a cut anymore and lawsuits will fly fast and furious back and forth across the Great Water, Bevan will be arrested by local constabulary after he attempts to prevent the new owners of MUM from evicting him, clutching his favorite easy chair as the movers drag it out of his quarters. The TMO will become a footnote in history - then we get to see who goes down in the history books as the last living practitioner of TM. Ahhh, vision of the future! How glorious! ________________________________ From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....to Michael again Hi Michael, thanks for your reply. FFL has been a learning experience for me too. Just to clarify, I don't think you are the creator of negative energy. My experience is that it simply exists as an essential and juicy part of life. Yin yang. And I agree with you that it is not negativity to call a man who robs a bank a robber. However, I think what is written here in relation to the TMO is definitely more than calling a man who robs a bank a robber. For example, I think and yes, it is my opinion, that how you rearrange Maharishi's name indicates something more than simply stating a fact. And yes, I do think your choice of John Jones is also indicative of something more than simply stating the facts. Such choices and such wordings contribute to what I call the tone of a post. And it is the tone that to me suggests whether or not and to what degree a person is operating under a charge, an issue. And yes, I recognize that I have my charges and my issues. Having learned some lessons here, I try to post only when the charge has settled out, as was the case with my first response to you on this topic. If I failed and offended you, I apologize. As for addressing the incident in question, since I have no personal knowledge of it, I feel responsible to refrain from commenting. And because I'm practical, I tend to focus on what can be done NOW to help the whole situation. Obviously what happened in the past cannot be changed. Again, you must know this from your work with vets. Is it not more compassionate towards them to help them reach some peaceful resolution here and now? And yes, I understand that you also want to prevent such in the future. We simply differ in our opinions as to how to go about doing that. Share ________________________________ From: Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....to Michael Thanks for the good wishes, Share - being on FFL has been a learning experience for me in many ways. In part it has helped me to deal with the unresolved understandings of how something that appeared to be so good for me could come in the context of what in the past was odd and incomprehensible behavior from Maha and his TM Movement. I have now a clear understanding of all my TM experiences and understand it now. I am still learning some things about what has gone down with the TMO in years past and for my part I do not have the feeling it does me any good to hear all these things (like TMO reps pressing people to give $50,000 minimum payment for a Vedaland project the TMO knew was not going to be built AND using films of Doug Henning when they knew he was dying) and talk sweetness and light about Marsh-hee and the TMO. The negativity you experience was and is created by Mar-ha-ree-shee and his organization. Myself and a few others here who speak about this aren't the creators of the "negative" energy. As I have said before, if a man robs a bank and you call him a robber it isn't negativity. If a man masquerades as a spiritual leader claiming to have no interest in women, power and money and is a liar, a womanizer, a money hungry self aggrandizing charlatan who needed his title and picture on everything under the sun and someone describes that person and his organization in just that way, it isn't negative, just reporting the truth. But when such truth feels negative, maybe it is bumping up against the illusions some hold about Maha being the spiritual savior of Mother Earth. One never knows what a post here on FFL will bring forth from others - its always interesting! I read what everyone has said so far and I agree with Barry - why not discuss the incident itself - one reason I had such a reaction was I had never heard of TMO deliberately soliciting rounding sidhas/governors to make a major financial decision while doing long term rounding - it surely goes against every rule of rounding I ever heard of. But perhaps I should appreciate the TMO and Marshy more fully - maybe they took and take the John Jones approach to heppin' people. John Jones is an undefeated UFC fighter (mixed martial arts) - I saw him today in a documentary about Bruce Lee - Jones said he feels like he is helping people when he is hitting them in the face. He says that he is helping them by beating the weakness out of them and they are better people for the experience. So maybe Maharshy and his TMO felt that if they lied to and scammed people enough it would beat the innocence and gullibility out of us - worked for me! I am a better person! I realize I open myself up to untold charges of "negativity" by making such a comparison. Also, having read the Good Doctor's latest post, as for myself I am not fighting old battles, only commenting on what was and what is. The unknowing public of today need to and deserve to hear such stories so they will be prepared when David Lynch and his TMO buddies come calling with their toothy smiles. ________________________________ From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....to Michael Michael I'm fresh from the work of Paul Wong who comes from a background of Chinese medicine and various energy modalities. I think you practice a form of qigong. And still meditate sometimes. And work with individuals with PTSD. With all this in mind I just want to say that I wish you substantial and even complete resolution of all traumatic experiences, whatever their origin. I think you and others here have an intention to be helpful when you speak negatively about the TMO. But when there's so much negativity and delivered with such a negatively charged tone, then I think there's also some healing yet to be done. And I don't think it's just about the TMO. But in a crucial sense, that doesn't even matter. What matters is that those charges are in your body, in your brain physiology, in your energy field. Hopefully from your own experience you know what I mean. Anyway, FWIW. And you probably already know this but as your charges are neutralized, to use Paul's word, all of your actions will be more effective, even those in relation to the TMO. I'm just sayin (-: ________________________________ From: Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again..... as I do not believe in past or future lives I am good ________________________________