> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > Not content to make up things about people she considers > > > > her enemies, now Judy makes up "facts" about the Inquisition. > > > > That's a very Inquisitor-like thing to do. :-) > > > > > > > > Even a short period of Googling would reveal how wrong she > > > > is about several things below, like being 354 years off on > > > > the "start date," as reported even by apologist Catholic > > > > organizatins. I'm pointing it out just so that she'll > > > > go crazy trying to prove herself RIGHT, DAMNIT and make a > > > > fool of herself for our amusement. :-) > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iF47M3YDlg > > > There aint't no doubt about it, she's lying. She makes up > > > little quibbles continuously to be able to call other's > > > liar and that is a lie as well. > > > > > The way you know who the liars are is whether, after > > being called on their lies, instead of attempting to > > prove themselves innocent, they accuse the person who > > has exposed them of lying and never try to document > > that either. > > > > For the record, I don't think Barry was lying about > > Ratzinger; he was just ignorant of the facts (as is > > navashok). There's more than enough reason to > > denounce Ratzinger on the basis of what he's actually > > done (and not done), but "He brought back the > > Inquisition" sounds so *dramatic*. > > > > Stupid, too, for Barry to claim the Inquisition of > > which Ratzinger became the head had previously been > > "abolished"--as if the Vatican would ever have sat > > back and allowed heresy against the doctrines of the > > Church to flourish unimpeded within its ranks. > > > Someday Judy should learn that there are certain > things that you cannot learn by sitting on your > fat ass in New Jersey and Googling. > As opposed to sitting on your fat ass in Amsterdam?
LoL! > Some things you can only learn by going to actual > Dominican libraries and reading the original > documents there. > > Such as the documents sent to individual Dominican > Orders at the time that Pope Paul VI changed the > name of the Holy Office to its current name. Those > documents -- not meant for the general public -- > seriously curtailed the powers and the provenance > of the Inquisition, effectively eliminating many > of the outlandish things it had still been able > to do up until that time. This was greeted with > much approval by people both within and outside > of the Church, and was a prime example of Paul > VI's many ecumenical reforms. It was widely > spoken of within the Church that "the dark era > of the Inquisition is finally over." > > When Ratzinger was named to the head of the > Inquisition by a later Pope, he had already > served as that Pope's "enforcer," and the Church's > arbiter of doctrinal orthodoxy. Once in place as > head of the Inquisition, he set about reversing > all of the revised policies, and quickly became > the most feared man in Catholicism. He ordered > crackdowns on even slightly heretical or non- > mainstream ideas, instituting widespread use > of private detectives and surveillance of priests' > letters, sermons, and communications to ferret > out gays and other liberal priests. He was notably > insane over acceptance of ideas about abortion, > gays, and in Third World countries, "liberal > theology." He gained within the Church the > nickname of "Grand Inquisitor" and among fellow > Germans, "Der Panzerkardinal." > > At the same time, he was a major force in the > coverups of child abuse and other sexual impro- > prieties by priests, and a major force in > bringing back exorcism to the Church. The > Dominican priests who were my sources during > my investigations of the Cathars were *terrified* > of him. They likened him both to Domenico Guzman > himself (founder of the Dominican Order, and > without question a psychopath) and Torquemada. > > So while the Vatican may have "saved face" by > preserving the office of the Holy Office, it > *did* seriously curtail its activities, giving > Catholicism its first real breath of fresh air > for seven hundred years. Ratzinger -- now Pope > Benedict -- brought all of the stale air back. >