--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote:
>
> You already answered your own question:
> 
> For our practice we select only the
> > suitable mantras of personal Gods.

Right. My question was, "Did Maharishi say in this quote
that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses?
Or did he say something a little different?"

The answer is that he said something a little different:
"mantras of personal gods," not "names of personal gods."

This is one of the things that emptybill pointed out.





 Such mantras fetch to us the
> > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
> > life."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: authfriend <authfriend@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the
> > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is
> > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than
> > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of
> > gods or goddesses
> 
> Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote
> that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses?
> 
> Or did he say something a little different?
> 
> (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions
> of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess
> Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's
> anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said
> before more than once, but we might as well go over it
> again.)
> 
> Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal
> power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us
> happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal
> power"?
> 
> > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result
> > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low
> > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful,
> > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goooooood thing to do. And even if
> > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films,
> > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he
> > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash
> 
> Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value?
> 
> > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't
> > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period.
> 
> Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address
> the case emptybill made. You won't even address the
> question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that
> of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi.
> 
> "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I
> could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere.
> 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > >
> > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
> > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
> > > not,
> > 
> > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is
> > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
> > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
> > practice.
> > 
> > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
> > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
> > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
> > 
> > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't
> > work (HTTP 404).
> > 
> > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
> > > Himalayas'.
> > 
> > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
> > 
> > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
> > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
> > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
> > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
> > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
> > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
> > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
> > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
> > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
> > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
> > life."
> > 
> > Right?
> > 
> > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
> > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
> > > 
> > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
> > >
> >
>


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